Elephant spring plate/brake line problem

[Len VanderJagt]

I need a solution. New elephant ASPs installed, the 60 mm bolt/nut does not even come close to clearing the brake line fitting on the caliper.

Reversing the bolt does not help enough. Thinking about cutting /grinding down the bolt, and grinding the nut down. I need about 7 mm. The notion would be to do this and/or fit a narrow nonlocking nut with Loctite.

Have to have the car on the trailer Thursday, and everything is closed Wednesday. Can somebody help out here?

Len VanderJagt

[DW SD]

can you gently rebend the fluid line? I built new lines from scratch when I switched to the 930 brakes. They are easy to do. Also, from many auto parts stores, you can buy pre-flared lines and you can simply bend them to fit.

How about a picture?

Doug

[Chuck Moreland]

Hi Len

On Carrera type calipers (wide A), the brake line fitting ends up right behind one of the bolt heads. The issue does not exist on any other OEM calipers due to different placement of the brake line fittings. A minor redesign is in queue to fix this.

For existing product there are a couple ways to gain the needed clearance:

Method 1:

Replace the nylock nut with a thin jam nut. Replace the bolt with a 55mm and grind to just clear the nut. Use a thin lock washer, belleville is thinnest but a serrated will do. Remove the flat washer. Bend the brake line tightly, but without kinking.

As shown:






Method 2:

Cleaner but you have to remove the caliper. Use a button head bolt, and insert it the opposite direction - head toward caliper. Use no flat washer under the head. Bend the brake line tightly.

No pics but here is a button head - it is low profile and has round shoulders so should clear the line.

[Len VanderJagt]

Thanks for your rapid response, Chuck.

I will see if a hex head will clear. If not, the serrated washer, jam nut and grind job will do it. I'll feel better with a little Loctite.

Len

[Dennis Kalma]

Hey Len, are you using this car on the street? I am afraid that I have been seduced by the Elephant ASP and want to put a set on my street project car...but would really like to hear some real world street experience with the ASP insofar as durability, NVH etc etc.....

Can you give us your feedback when you get it going?

Thanks

Dennis

[JP911]

Another option would be to change the brake line to use a banjo fitting that allows the line to exit the caliper at 90 deg angle.

[Len VanderJagt]

Sorry Dennis,
this is a dedicated track car, although it has a license plate. In Michigan, you can put a license plate on anything.

The ASP's look interesting for street use. They look particularly good for people who don't trailer their cars to the track. On the other hand, I am just looking for more contact patch under braking and acceleration, and all around better wear while going faster. Is that asking too much?

Unsolicited testimonial: I haven't bought a part from Chuck yet that hasn't functioned as advertised, and I have pretty much bought them all.

Len

[Dennis Kalma]

Yeah I have a bunch of Chuck's stuff....hence my interest in asp for the street.

I want them for no other reason than just making my older 911 better...

Dennis