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Super_Dave_D 09-21-2007 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tfiv (Post 3490884)
I see new Ps and Cs in your future

OK so enlighten me as to how you can make that statement?

dweymer 09-21-2007 08:41 AM

the head ports look just like Johns(disfin) did. Looks like a used crack pipe, I imagine.

tfiv 09-21-2007 08:48 AM

Sorry for the pessimism Dave. Obviously I don't have the details, but with those leak down numbers and the amount of oil that's making it's way into the combustion chambers it's my guess. Maybe it's all valves and guides. Maybe you'll get lucky, I never do. I'll be curious to hear how the pistons and cylinders measure.

FenderGuy 09-21-2007 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=charleskieffner;3473161]

powder coat engine tin/fan/etc. it goes on and on.............

cad plate fan housing strap

cad plate all nuts bolts washers (cheap)

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Not to hijack this link, but I thought a top end was around 5k? Patrick quoted me that price when my 3.0 eat a piston ring?


Chuck do you know of a shop that does this in Az? I am thinking of doing and engine drop to clean the engine up and fix leaks

JeremyD 09-21-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 3490871)
What happened to the subscribe link that used to be at the bottom of each thread?


It's now under the "Thread Tools" at the top... took me awhile to find it too.

Too early for the P & C debate until they are measured. 400mile/qt is alot of oil - better to do this now than to wait until you drop a valve...

KTL 09-21-2007 10:30 AM

Can't always count on what the eye sees in the exhaust ports as far as buildup goes. If someone runs some Berryman B-12 or Techron in there, those big globs would be gone and you'd think everything was decent- except the port showing oily film/wet versus big glob of crud. Hence the reason oil consumption is a good gauge to go by.

My car had 78K on the clock and both the intakes and exhausts were goners, along with heavy wear on the rockers and shafts. Oil consumption was high and so was the valve clatter. No sign of oil staining in mine like oil changes may have been too infrequent or low quality oil usage.

Super_Dave_D 09-21-2007 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=KTL;3491253]Can't always count on what the eye sees in the exhaust ports as far as buildup goes. If someone runs some Berryman B-12 or Techron in there, those big globs would be gone and you'd think everything was decent- except the port showing oily film/wet versus big glob of crud. Hence the reason oil consumption is a good gauge to go by.
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At least two of them were wet and oily.

disfin 09-22-2007 12:53 PM

Dave,
Like donnie mentioned, your exhaust ports look like mine did. Here is a before and after picture. The head work was done by Bob at Anchor Atlantic in NJ.

Based on your smoke on decelleration, you will correct the majority of your oil consumption by doing the head work alone. Rings are a good idea too. Remember, sloppy valve guides will create oil consumption issues, but not the compression/leak down issues you are having.

My p&c's measured in spec and i hope yours will too.

Good luck, and keep the pictures coming!
John
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190494327.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190494345.jpg

OldTee 09-22-2007 04:50 PM

cams, cams, cams, cams. Get a 964 grind on your cams. Time for new valves. Expnsive I know, but at least do the exhaust. I hope he is going to pull the pistons and mic the lans. If OK reuse your cylinders and rings. Have the pistons bead blasted. Heads too. It is only money but you will be happier in the end.

HarryD 09-23-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 3490871)
What happened to the subscribe link that used to be at the bottom of each thread?

The subscribe button is now listed in the "Thread Tools" button at the top of the page.

wnsgc 10-23-2007 02:42 PM

So Dave,

how did the top end rebuild turn-out and what was the final cost?

DanielDudley 10-23-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Super_Dave_D (Post 3490620)
Extremely high oil consumption was the reason. The car actually ran pretty well even in its condition except to a real slight miss - a couple plugs were fouled. He had't got down to the rings/bores yet. I will let you know.

Do you think your previous mechanic was running different plugs on the wet cylinders ? It has been known to happen.

Super_Dave_D 10-23-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wnsgc (Post 3548441)
So Dave,

how did the top end rebuild turn-out and what was the final cost?

Thats the $1,000,000 question - All of the sheet metal came back from the powdercoater and it SHOULD be ready on Friday. Its been killing me and I cant wait to get her back. The wife even commented that she cant wait until I get my car back so I can get out of her hair! Hopefully Friday will be a good day!

THECARREAPER 10-23-2007 04:52 PM

nice thread. not to hijack, but what is wrong with castrol oil? i just changed my oil on a mew to me 89 911 and i used castrol 20/50.

thanks

charleskieffner 10-23-2007 06:27 PM

super duper dave keeps us posted.

fender guy the two i know are patricks and jack at stuttgart. take your pick. or my buddy nels if hes not building vintage bug vans or off road porsche motors.

HarryD 10-23-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by THECARREAPER (Post 3548697)
nice thread. not to hijack, but what is wrong with castrol oil? i just changed my oil on a mew to me 89 911 and i used castrol 20/50.

thanks

Read this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/367300-ultimate-motor-oil-thread-why-we-hate-cj4-sm-oils-post3548759.html#post3548759.

I know it is long but well worth it.

THECARREAPER 10-24-2007 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryD (Post 3548941)
Read this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?p=3548759#post3548759.

I know it is long but well worth it.

thank you! will do!

Super_Dave_D 10-29-2007 08:51 AM

well its been a long time - waaayyyy too long. She should be on the road tomorrow. This is what she looks like today. Sorry about the pic quality - all i had was my phone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193676619.jpg

bourgeois911 10-29-2007 10:18 AM

Purty!

tfiv 10-29-2007 10:27 AM

You got lucky on the Ps and Cs? I take it they were in spec.?


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