993 basic vs. 993"S" question.
 

What constitutes an "S"?
What extras come with an S?
Thanks. :)

Depends on if it is a C4S or a C2S. A C4S will basically be a turbo without the turbo, which means a beefed up suspension and larger brakes. Both will be a widebody, which means larger fenders in the back, wider wheels in the back and a different front bumper. Other than that the engine is the same and options are the same.

The 993 "S" is a wide-bodied variant.

They made two versions; the C2S and the AWD C4S.

C4S's received the AWD system, the Big Red brakes on the TT and solid-spoke versions of the TT's hollow-spoke wheels.

C2S's had standard 993 brakes and the same wheels as above.

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Not true. there are only 2 suspension pieces that are different on the turbo, the scizzor pieces in the back, and the S uses the same as all other n/b 993. The wheels are not wider, the same 8&10" width x18 wheels are used w/ spacers in the back

the biggest difference between a 2S and 4S besides AWD is the brakes. 4S has the tt big reds and electro- hydraulic booster. 2S has vacuum boosted like the regular 993n/b

Bill, I believe my statement is at least partially true. ;)

It is also my understanding that the C4S also received the beefed up sway bars from the turbo. Is that correct? The sways are what I was mostly talking about when I said "beefed up suspension." I was correct on the brake upgrade. I guess I stand corrected on the wheels, although I don't understand how I am wrong, because I see turbo twist 11's all the time, which do not fit a NB car. Bill is the wheel man, so I believe what he says.

On normally aspirated 993's, "S" means it's more "Spensive" but not any faster ;)

athe turbo uses M030 suspension, same as what an M030 n/b uses.

In US the ride heights are all the same, RoW regular is lower and M030 is eevn lower

the only turbo specific parts are the 2 lateral scissor pieces.

11s came out later on 996tt and GT3

Thanks Bill. What you said makes sense.

An S gets you a bigger butt and bragging rights that you have a somewhat rare car. I would take either but am happy that Ginger is a fat bottomed girl.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171839913.jpg

You guys left out the most important difference:

The C2S has the ULTRA COOL split grill:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1189664029.jpg

About $15K in resale dollars!!!

IF it is a C2S...

C4S? Not so sure... Not many fans of the truck like AWD system...

Ginger is a whore.

I do like the split grill above though.

Mark, I see only one car in your sigy. What happened to the early ride?

You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about - on either count.

Yo Drago - Boo Boo is going back to PO. He's going to finish her up. How's the smurf?

C4S is far from a truck. You can't even tell its got the 4wd until you go an pull a stuck pickup out of the mud or pull a stump.

Does anyone have a good depiction on how much wider the S looks from the regular Carrera? A nice side by side.

I've seen the side by side pics many times. Just do a search.

Separately, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference, but side by side....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1189746331.jpg

The "S" is quite the looker. I guess it is a "Turbo Look" in a 993 version? If they had did something to the engine to give it another 50hp over the stock 993 they would of hit a homerun.

Thanks. That one show it good.

Opinions are like ... well you get the idea...
 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

Even if they can't back it up with substantial evidence!

A variety of '97 "Plain" 993's for sale at $40K, +/-...

Now try to find a NICE (less than 20K miles and all original paint) 1997 993 C2S for less than $55K...

As to the subjective feel of a C2S vs. a C4 or C4S, I have driven both, and yes, I can feel the substantial difference; if you can't, it may simply be that you started with, and are very used to the AWD setup... and that is fine...

Just not for me! But then again I still like the early Longhoods w/o A/C, so go figure!