Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Engine refresh? Suspension refresh?

I know what an engine rebuild is, but what constitutes an engine refresh? I've always wondered...

Same thing with a suspension refresh. What is "refreshed?"

Are there transmission refreshes?


__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 09-13-2007, 10:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,861
I asked the engine rebuild question on the engine forum a few weeks ago and got some very interesting answers. I'm now trying to train myself to use the term.. 'remanufactured engine' when I tell people about my 3.2ss.
I'm thinking that the 'remanufactured' term can also apply to other areas of the car..for example the suspension. My scenerio started innocently enough and then before I knew it I was down the slippery slope. Everything removed, cleaned, painted, re-plated and or replaced. Bearings, front control arms, all rubber bushings, ball joints, tie rods, shocks, front camber plates. Lowered aligned, corner balanced. Emptied my pockets..and still feel like I cut corners because I didn't give much attention to the steering rack or the rubber puck.
I think most would consider a refresh as tending to trouble areas on the engine or suspension. Fixing leaks, maybe a top end and a good cleaning. Same would hold true with the suspension, new shocks if needed, maybe front and rear bushings and only go deeper if the part needed replacement ie: bearings or ball joints...and I guess a general clean up. my 2 cents
__________________
Peace, Ron
www.ronorlando.net
78SC Targa 3.2 SS, 964 cams, CIS, SSI's,Dansk
Own a gun and you can rob a bank , own a bank and you can rob the world.
Old 09-13-2007, 12:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 10,446
Garage
__________________
1970 914-6 street"evil cockaroach"
1970 911 Targa "ST"
Jade Green IROC Tribute (ready to race)
Old 09-13-2007, 12:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
AutoBahned
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 55,993
Garage
Right!

It could mean anything. I once had a guy offer to "freshen up" a trans. and sell it to me.

You need to get it nailed down in writing exactly what will be done - the list should be pages long.

Otherwise, just go with a known quality engine builder or do it yourself.
Old 09-13-2007, 12:21 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
"farking Porsche hero"
 
Rich Lambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Posts: 2,099
Garage
Here's my take on a suspension refresh.

'66 911 suspension refresh

'66 911 suspension refresh - part deux

I just got the fronts together today and didn't have time to take pictures.
__________________
Rich
'66 911 #303872
'07 Cayman
'17 Macan
'58 Land Rover S2 88"
Old 09-13-2007, 01:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRE Cup View Post
And, of course, the lightweight version:
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 09-13-2007, 02:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 10,446
Garage
Nah... Those little trees just mask the real problem.

Kinda like spraying the bottom of a leaking 2.7 with clear acrylic spray to stop the leaks
__________________
1970 914-6 street"evil cockaroach"
1970 911 Targa "ST"
Jade Green IROC Tribute (ready to race)
Old 09-13-2007, 02:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Superman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Lacey, WA. USA
Posts: 25,310
Here is my take:

"Rebuilt" means slapping a bunch of new parts on, involving nearly every wear part.

"Remanufactured" means, basically, building a NEW unit using a small number of 'core' parts. In other words, a "remanufactured" engine, to me, means somebody took the case halves, the crank and the rods and machined all those parts to be identical or nearly identical to new parts, and they used all new parts to assemble the rest of the engine, making sure that all assemblies and surfaces were 'as new.' "Remanufactured" virtually means "new."

"Freshened" can mean many things, and it is probably the least extensive of these three terms. I would say I freshened my engine when I measured stuff like pistons and cylinders, determining they were WELL within factory spec. New parts included all valves, guides, seals.....main and rod bearings, rings and various gaskets and rubber parts.

I also "freshened" my suspension when I replaced all the bushings, the shocks and turbo tie rods.

__________________
Man of Carbon Fiber (stronger than steel)

Mocha 1978 911SC. "Coco"
Old 09-13-2007, 03:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:06 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.