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Arrgh! Oil filter stuck

After much twisting, I've been unable to remove the oil filter from my 87 Carrera. I bought a nice big filter wrench at Schucks and it broke before the filter gave up. At this point, the can is deformed a little but not preforated, that I can tell.

This is the first oil change I've performed on the car since I bought it last spring. The filter says porsche on it, and is about 3.5" in diameter.

My though now is to either drive a big screwdriver through it or give in and get to know my local p-car mechanic a little better. At this point I am refilling the oil reservoir, can I drive it now and change the filter later?

Any advice?

OBTW, spilled about a cup of oil on the engine - drat.

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The way to avoid spilling oil is to punch a hole in the filter at the top, this allows the oil to drain out of the filter.
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do not drive a screw driver through it. If you do, and you cannot get it off, you are stranded.

I would get an oil filter wrench that encloses the bottom of the filter. I have given up only once on an old Range Rover when the filter body started to twist instead of loosening out.
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I've had good luck with these:




Available from our sponsor or probably from your favorite FLAPS if you are in a bind.

And I completely agree - Don't pound a screwdriver though it.

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I've had good luck with these:




Available from our sponsor or probably from your favorite FLAPS if you are in a bind.

And I completely agree - Don't pound a screwdriver though it.

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I've got some big, over sized Channel Locks that I use for a lot of things. Stuck oil filters is only one of many. No oil filter has ever defeated these. So, if you go buy them (expesnsive), expect many uses beyond.
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The one in the picture is what I use. Gets even the most stubborn filters off.
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i prefer this type of wrench it fits im tight places much better and has never failed me (I think mine is a blue-point or snap-on) not a cheapo one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-Jaw-Pro-UNIVERSAL-Ratchet-2-Way-OIL-FILTER-WRENCH-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43998QQihZ017QQitem Z270200321160QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVWQQtcZphoto
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I drove a screw driver threw mine and torqued it off. It got it off.
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driving a screwdriver thru it is "plan J". you got busted in "plan A", move to "B". i used a huge pair of channel locks, when my snap on, strap-type, fails. it rarely fails.
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giant channel-locks. don't drive a screwdriver through it please.
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I just hammered a large nail into the side of the filter and used the three-prong claw type filter removal tool with a ratchet wrench when mine was stuck.

The nail prevented the claw from slipping.
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BFCL (large channel locks). Like Milt says, you'll wind up using the BFCL quite a bit. A basic, important tool.
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DO NOT POUND A NAIL INTO THE FILTER.

Do not make a hole in the filter.

Your are screwed if you still cannot get it off.
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When you do get it off (you will get it off, don't take it to a shop) be sure to put some petroleum jelly or silicone spray on the rubber gasket of the oil tank inside the engine bay. What makes the filter so hard to get off, besides overtightening, is the rubber gasket gripping the filter can. Lube it up with something that won't go away and you shouldn't have this problem next time.
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I've always just used the engine oil to lube the rubber gasket....

To summarize:

1. Try wrapping a moist rag around it to get a better grip - cheapest
2. Next step up is a strap wrench - Google for pics - some have cam devices for more grip
3. Then the big "crushing grip" type pliers that some have posted above. These could pierce the filter so take care.

The screwdriver method has many adherents, but if it fails then you are in big trouble.
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AHA! I got it off!!!

The 3 pronged gadget and a breaker bar did the trick, but it was not easy. In the process I dropped one of the air cleaner box clamps into the nether region below, where the spilled oil also went. I need to retrieve that...

The filter housing was pretty deformed in the process, but I don't think it was ever perforated.

Thanks for all the advice, even for a fairly mundane problem. You guys rock!

Cheers,
Nathan

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