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I have a msd 6al and there is sticker on the side that states, "Do not use with solid core wires" so what can I do? My wires are solid core, stock Beru wires. 1969 911 2.0 I am not planning on racing just a stock set up using the msd box and hi-vibration coil and tach adapter. Do I need different wires?
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I went with red Clewett Engineering wires from out host.
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I wouldn't use stock wires with MSD.
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Thank you. I will consider the suggestion and wil not use the solid cores.
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If you use solid core wires, you won't use them long....they'll pinhole and/or burn out....
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Just ordered the Clewett wires, thanks for the information. I knew there was going tobe a problem with the old wires when I opened the box and read the warning....
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I drove a 930 across the country with stock wires and an MSD - worked fine.
Maybe MSD doesn't want you to use wires that don't have resistance? "Normal" wires use some sort of conductor that has a certain resistance to it. The stock/Beru wires have a resistor in the plug connector. If only Warren was still alive, he'd know. (Sniff) -Chris
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MSD doesn't want EMI to interfere with their ignition controls. You can supress EMI in either of two ways. Through resistance or neturalizing the magnetic field by creating a wire spiral carring voltage around a magnetic core.
Resistance lowers the tail end of the spark and/or lowers frequency depending on who you ask. Some pelicanheads have reported failed factory Beru wires and damaged rev limiting rotors when using MSD. The Beru plug connector has a group of connectors carring the voltage. Warren and Loren have discussed this issue. My bottom line is that any age or weakness in either is a problem waiting to happen. I use spiral wire and the simple rotor pn 93060290102. JW says it's the 1972-77 VW rotor. Pelican Parts lists it as Bos-04038 also http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/213066-rotor-button-melting-why-2.html#post1832405
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They are ment to be used with SPIRAL core wires
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Ok for real. How much difference from the CDI box do all you MSD guys notice? My CDI works fine, but my low end power sucks. Below 3K its pretty sluggish.
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I don't know how much of a difference the msd will make but I got a good price and a complete setup. My car has a lot of missing items and I decided to go with a solid package instead of piecing it together.
Rob
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Hmmm. Must be the holes in the insulation caused by voltage "spikes"? ![]() Sherwood |
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