Stock or elephant racing oil lines?

[davis911s]

I have a 77 911 with stock trombone cooler. My lines have a few dents in them. I am looking at replacing the lines with either a set of used stock lines or splurging and buying a new set of elephant racing lines.

the two advantages to the stock lines from my point of view are
1- They are less than half the cost of elephant lines; and
2- They are fairly local so no shipping (Shipping for lines is about $50)

What do you guys think I should do?

The car is a stock 2.7 that is just driven on the streets in the summer, no track time.

Shawn

[PPilot]

If the dents are minor, just run what you have, or replace with stock....any pictures of dents? Any signs of abnormal temps or pressures? Just my opinion......G.

[Jeff Higgins]

I like my Elephant lines. I say if you are even thinking about them, just go ahead and get them. That trombone can use all of the help it can get; the increased surface area of the Elephant lines is designed to help cooling. Elephant lines are seen as a desirable upgrade, adding value to the car as well. The car will run cooler and be cooler.

[RWebb]

since you are on the second most northerly hwy in Canada there will be few days in the summer when you'll need the extra fins.

with global warming the hot days will increase in number and intensity but I still don't see the need in the next 10 years...

[PCA7GGR]

Use your funds to buy a cooler to replace the trombone.

[TRE Cup]

if $ are tight, what sergio says.
otherwise the elephant lines are much more robust than oem and will withstand rocks and debris better too.

[vash]

Originally Posted by PCA7GGR

Use your funds to buy a cooler to replace the trombone.

this is great advice! there is a cooler for sale right now in the classifieds.

[Chuck Moreland]

Originally Posted by davis911s

I have a 77 911 with stock trombone cooler. My lines have a few dents in them. I am looking at replacing the lines with either a set of used stock lines or splurging and buying a new set of elephant racing lines.

the two advantages to the stock lines from my point of view are
1- They are less than half the cost of elephant lines; and
2- They are fairly local so no shipping (Shipping for lines is about $50)

What do you guys think I should do?

The car is a stock 2.7 that is just driven on the streets in the summer, no track time.

Shawn

Actually the Elephant Lines are less expensive than factory lines. Perhaps you are comparing the price of a pair of Elephant Lines to a single factory line. The factory lines are sold per-each.

[mca]

Originally Posted by Chuck Moreland

Actually the Elephant Lines are less expensive than factory lines. Perhaps you are comparing the price of a pair of Elephant Lines to a single factory line. The factory lines are sold per-each.

+1

I have them as well - very robust. Updated to a Carrera style fender mount cooler the same time that I replaced the lines.

In my case, temps dropped nearly 50 degrees. I had some dents in the lines and was considering replacing those ONLY - Elephant claims 10 degree drop with the lines alone.

Getting the lines on is lots of fun too

[rvanderpyl]

I think he means he can buy some used stock lines locally. It's not very easy to find used ER lines, for some reason no one seems to sell them.

[Dantilla]

I'm sure not selling mine!

[charleskieffner]

since most of you dont know what heat is unless you live here in arizona or DEATH VALLEY or SAN FELIPE BAJA NORTE! i would go simply with OEM lines or if yer really into racey stuffen than slap some aircraft lines on with aircraft fittings.

aircraft lines are a very popular upgrade here for trashed bent crushed oil lines here in da dezert.

buttttt....................if i was tracking the living snot out of it in an extreme environment i would jump on the elephant lines in a heart beat along with an setrab fan oil cooler in each fenderwell and a setrab up front grabbing air. every degree helps.

pretty much in another month or so all track activities die on the vine until cooler ambient temps arrive in late sept. october.

pca race in may at vegas speedway will probably bring hottest temps. and the most puked engines and the most wrecks due to oil on track!

for the baja 500 in june............every vehicle big small medium fast slow all have as many fan driven coolers as they can fit to survive! enjoyed 122-124 degree F temps there.

KINDA LIKE HELL WITH TACOS!

[JFairman]

I don't have the elepahnt lines, but I really like the little shrader valve they put on their lines to purge hot oil out of the lines (while the external thermostat is hot and open) and front cooler during oil changes.

That gets around 2 more quarts of old oil out of the lines and front cooler during changes.

[PatrickB]

Originally Posted by charleskieffner

KINDA LIKE HELL WITH TACOS!

[charleskieffner]

oh i forgot to add that wearing a layer of nomex undies/baclava/helmet skirt/3 layer fire suit/nomex socks/nomex boots/gloves/full face helmet and the only source of clean air is your parker pumper puny ass vacum cleaner hose for fresh(?) dust free air, certainly qualifies for the loony bin of sanctioned races on this planet!

actually monyana i get to go to geiser bros off road here ie. mega mega mega mega buck winning trophy trucks. since i have known rick and jeff for years i pretty much have free reign roaming the shop searching out trick solutions for stuffen at werk, my stuffen etc. camera in hand as they build these rolling bank accts from the ground up. ideas a plenty here.

since most, like about all winning class "1" cars are rear or mid engined they too have ser-i-ass cooling problems with a hell of alot more weight and horsepower to contend with. so if i see anything trick enough applicable to our p-cars i'll snap some shots. remember when they roll over(common) everything must be contained in tube frame to avoid damage to critical parts, so they tend to do alot of alum/c-fiber ducting to the location of fan cooler to avoid crushing the snot out of it. aircraft line a-plenty everywhere.

snorkels sticking up on the roof of vehicles with an oil cooler stuffed inside DONT QUITE CUT THE QUESO/SALSA IN DA BAJA!

doesnt ever hurt to take tech from one motorsport and apply to the other.

another point i have seen on various classes of p-cars at the track and some off road rally p-cars is placing oil coolers inside of vehicle to avoid trashing it, and mounted so as to grab as much free flowing air as it can by location w/a fan attached. kinda hard to do this on a street car.