Who Do Europeans Prefer 911sc Over Carrera Foe Expoert?

[robert walsh]

Why do europeans and other prefer the 911sc, with it's inherent flaws, over the 84-89 3.2 carrera? What is it about the 911sc 3.0 that makes it, seemingly, the choice over the two. Perhaps more vintage, obviously the older the 911, given condition, rust issues and originality (#'s mathching etc.) the more expensive the car. Maybe it is just a good combo of performance, availabilty and price. It is not the fastest or slowest, doesn't have all the emenities of newer carrera's, but people crave them in this country and especially for export.

[scottbombedout]

Well this is one european who prefers his Carrera over an SC.

Obviously a good SC over a rusty Carrera is a no brainer, but a good SC over an equally good Carrera? Another no brainer.

[robert walsh]

perhaps i am wy off base on this one, not sure though, currnet owner '83 911sc cab, love the car, i've dodged any major problems, i've gotten alot of interest to sell to europe and i'm a little curious as to why, maybe because it is the only true year of the sc cab?

[RarlyL8]

Excellence just came out with an article on collectable 911s. The '83 SC Cab was on the lsit.

[BLEW911]

Maybe because you don't need to do a top end rebuild on an SC at 60K because of worn valve guides?


Don

[GaryR]

Inherent flaws? Rust issues?? SC head studs or 3.2 valve guides, which is worse? I would say 90+% of all SC's out there have had any engine issues addressed and i've never seen a "rusty" SC.. ALL were galvanized and only the 78's had non-galvanized front fenders (i've had two 78's, neither had a front fender rust issue)..

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by robert walsh

Why do europeans and other prefer the 911sc, with it's inherent flaws, over the 84-89 3.2 carrera? What is it about the 911sc 3.0 that makes it, seemingly, the choice over the two. Perhaps more vintage, obviously the older the 911, given condition, rust issues and originality (#'s mathching etc.) the more expensive the car. Maybe it is just a good combo of performance, availabilty and price. It is not the fastest or slowest, doesn't have all the emenities of newer carrera's, but people crave them in this country and especially for export.

What's your supporting evidence that they do?

[robert walsh]

Actually i don't have any other than the interst abroad for purchasing my '83 cab, which is not for sale. I now realize that being only mfg the one year with a run of some 1750 or so maybe the reason.

[JGalt]

I thought from the SC on the bodies were galvanized. If they are galvanized, what are the rust issues?

[JGalt]

Maybe the advantage is the SC is a simpler car with the CIS injection. Modifications also beome simpler.

[robert walsh]

I'm sorry about the comment in my post of earlier or older 911's being worth more dependant on condition and originality, i meant older being being the pre SC era, the original 911 models '66 forward to the sc series.

[robert walsh]

I uess ii would have ti include the '65 as well, and what about '64, never enn one but heard they were produced?

[robert walsh]

Excuse my additions, the '64 911 was made and in significant production #'s, comming out in november 1964 i believe.

[livi]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

What's your supporting evidence that they do?

That was my question too. I have no such experience in Sweden, one of the most Porsche-dense countries in the world. I am personally very happy with my Carrera. No doubt, a much improved model compared to the SC!

[kiwiokie]

Originally Posted by JGalt

I thought from the SC on the bodies were galvanized. If they are galvanized, what are the rust issues?

I had a PPI done on a two owner, 120,000ml 1982 911SC in DC. Had been serviced at a Porsche dealership from new. Nice paint, immaculate interior, the guy had always driven the car with seat covers on. Opened the front trunk and the front pan was rusted right through. The front suspension was being held on by underbody coating and sheer good fortune. The jack points were also rusted out and there was rust around the rear windscreen.

[1982911SCTarga]

Excellence just came out with an article on collectable 911s. The '83 SC Cab was on the lsit.

Glad to hear that.

Brian

[Paul K]

FWIW, my '89 targa is worth $17-18k here in the US. In the UK they are regularly listed for $22-28k. I recently had a couple of Germans look at the car, I am sure with an eye to shipping it back to Germany. I think the combination of a very weak dollar and diminishing number of rust-free '80s cars available in Europe is the reason for the demand, but I'd be interested to hear from someone 'in the trade'.

Paul.

[Pazuzu]

Aren't there also age restrictions for shipping cars back over the pond? All SCs are 25 years or older now, which I thought changed some of the requirements. No Carreras are that old (well, unless you count the REAL ones )

[tsiegwart]

Both cars are fabulous.

I chose my 3.2 Carrera over the SC because of the inherent simplicity of electronic fuel injection.

It's funny how some consider CIS "simpler". Much like a carburetor is "simpler" than EFI.

EFI to me, seems simple and easier to deal with. I feel more comfortable chasing sensor and injector problems that vacuum issues.

I think it boils down to personal experience and knowledge of a certain design.

[Wickd89]

Originally Posted by robert walsh

Actually i don't have any other than the interst abroad for purchasing my '83 cab, which is not for sale. I now realize that being only mfg the one year with a run of some 1750 or so maybe the reason.

When I started looking for my first Porsche, I wanted a convertible 911SC.
Low power, 100's of upgrades from 83 to 89, power top, etc, made me decide on spending an additional ~$6K to get a clean '89.
Everytime I hear about what people are fixing, I check on my '89 and it is not an issue -G50, power top, 16 rims, etc, etc...