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mnmasotto 08-27-2008 06:00 PM

Need picture of 911 with 16X7 Fuchs F&B
 
I need to see a photo of a 911 with 16X7 Fuchs on the front and back at the same time. In other words, 4 16X7 Fuchs at one time. Does anyone know of any problems doing this?

Also, is there any difference in the appearance of the car while using 16X8 versus 16X9 Fuchs in the rear? Is the only difference between the two rims is the depth of penetration in the fender wells.

RoninLB 08-27-2008 06:58 PM

I run 4 7x16 on a narrow body.

no problem for my act

many different acts

MOMO3.2 08-27-2008 06:59 PM

mnmasotto:

I have seen several photos of narrow body 911's with 16X7 Fuchs front and rear, but do not recall seeing any SC's or Carrera's with this setup.

Most of the extra rim width between a Fuchs 16X8 & 16X9 is in the inner portion of the rim. But, I sure seem to be able to tell the difference in photos and in person. I have 9's on the rear of my 87 Carrera and I love the look and extra rubber on the pavement. I also like their lightness, period correct diameter and piece of mind that they are proven safe.

I have no affiliation, but Jason Cullen gave me a GREAT deal on a new set of 9" Fuchs a while back. I believe he has new sets in stock. Jason is an excellent person to deal with.

Mike

Wil Ferch 08-27-2008 07:05 PM

I run 7" Fuchs all around and have posted this as an answer before. Sorry, no pics.

205 fronts with 225's rear.

Have also recently added 21mm factory spacers on the rear to try to mimic 8"...looks fine and more importantly, works and drives fine.

RoninLB 08-27-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOMO3.2 (Post 4144601)

I have no affiliation, but Jason Cullen gave me a GREAT deal on a new set of 9" Fuchs a while back. I believe he has new sets in stock. Jason is an excellent person to deal with.




without looking into my paperwork.. if Jason's shop is in S Calif I believe he also set me up.

great to deal with and has a good rep.

mnmasotto 08-27-2008 09:43 PM

Fuchs
 
I already have 9X16's on the back. Unfortunately, I am having problems with the rubber oil line rubbing against the tire. I am probably going to switch to a more narrow rim to avoid further oil line destruction.

qcwang 08-27-2008 10:45 PM

NO problems with 16x7 Fuchs on front and back.
I was doing this for autocross/track using 205/55/16 in front and 225/50/16 in rear.
Probably could also do 225/50/16 on 16x7 Fuchs all the way around as my front fenders are rolled, but not sure if my 1.5 degrees of negative camber would be enough.

Here are some pics with this setup.

Hope this helps!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219904937.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905127.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905472.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905553.jpg

MIK911 08-27-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnmasotto (Post 4144847)
I already have 9X16's on the back. Unfortunately, I am having problems with the rubber oil line rubbing against the tire. I am probably going to switch to a more narrow rim to avoid further oil line destruction.

This is the first time I've heard someone complain of the 9's rubbing the oil lines. This certainly is quite rare, but I guess all of our cars are a little different, to some degree. My wrench 'warned' me of this potential, which is partially why I went with 16x8's in the rear. The visible lip depth of a 8 and 9 are essentially identical. As mentioned above, the extra 1" of the 9 is not visible , but the difference in appearance is that the lug holes on the 9 is recessed.

MIK911 08-27-2008 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qcwang (Post 4144905)
NO problems with 16x7 Fuchs on front and back.
I was doing this for autocross/track using 205/55/16 in front and 225/50/16 in rear.
Probably could also do 225/50/16 on 16x7 Fuchs all the way around as my front fenders are rolled, but not sure if my 1.5 degrees of negative camber would be enough.

Here are some pics with this setup.

Hope this helps!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219904937.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905127.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905472.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219905553.jpg

Wow. Now *that* is a hot looking ride.

qcwang 08-27-2008 11:03 PM

Thanks MIK911, but I will always be in the shadows of yours!!:D

Oregon Cab 11-20-2008 08:40 AM

7x16 all around the Batmobile.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227202817.jpg

gtc 11-20-2008 09:09 AM

[cue Darth Vader voice]
Sweeeeeeet!

KTL 11-20-2008 09:26 AM

I and a friend run 16x7 all around with 225/50. It's not the fastest setup, but it's still fast and predictable. The key is to add to the rear some 21mm 928 or 28mm 930 spacers with longer studs, to keep the rear track width at least as wide as the front.

Here's me chasing said friend at Blackhawk Farms- both of us on 4 16x7 with 225/50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYwvfPwxFk

I switched to 225/245 with 16x8/9 this year and friend was still hanging with me at that track- punk pulled 2 seconds out of his arse somewhere because I for certain improved my times!!!! :mad:

Paulporsche 11-20-2008 11:31 AM

Here's mine.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227212991.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227213081.jpg

tshih 11-20-2008 11:44 AM

I suppose the ones who run the same wheels and tires front and back have the advantage of rotating the wear factor evenly amongst the tires of the same set and time. I have 2 sets of 6"&7"X16's and 6"&8"X16's which I'm going to turn into one set of 6" all around and one set of 7x8s.

arbita1 11-20-2008 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qcwang (Post 4144905)
NO problems with 16x7 Fuchs on front and back.
I was doing this for autocross/track using 205/55/16 in front and 225/50/16 in rear.

Quincy,

How do you like that set up? I currently use 16 x 7 w/ 205's and 16 x 9's w/245's for autocross. I've been thinking about using 7's all around or dropping to 8's in the rear with 225's to cut down on some understeer.

Paulporsche 11-20-2008 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=tshih;4315247]I suppose the ones who run the same wheels and tires front and back have the advantage of rotating the wear factor evenly amongst the tires of the same set and time.

That's my thinking, since I run a lot of front neg camber and actually tend to wear out the fronts first. I don't track the car anymore.

When I rotate the tires this spring I'm going to add a 6 mm spacer to the rears to bring the tires out closer to the body.

911st 11-20-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbita1 (Post 4315333)
Quincy,

How do you like that set up? I currently use 16 x 7 w/ 205's and 16 x 9's w/245's for autocross. I've been thinking about using 7's all around or dropping to 8's in the rear with 225's to cut down on some understeer.


Matt, I am not an expert but I have alwas wondered about such an approach. I just can not get my head around how giving up traction in the rear is going to help the front. It might alow the rear to come around quicker with less traction.

Can you get more bite by adding more neg camber, wider front tires, toe out, or just carring more gas? I think somone in the know told me that increasing front rake can help to??

my1st911 11-20-2008 07:32 PM

Hey Paul, my car is similar to yours and my 16x7 dont fit well in the rear. Mine will rub the fenders. How did you get yours to tuck underneath, and lower your beauty. I would like to run 16x7 fuchs, and lowered like yours, but gave up on the lowering part because of the rubbing problem. Do the fuchs have different offsets?

Paulporsche 11-21-2008 04:49 AM

my 1st 911,

Since I don't track the car anymore, I was more interested in how it looked on the street than how it performed on track. I set it up so the rear is @ the same ht as the tire dia, which means it is actually about 1/4" or so above the tire since the tire flats a little on the bottom. Then I set the front 5/8" higher which gives it a slightly nose down attitude.

AFAIK the Fuchs 16x7 only have one offset. I think The 8s have 2.

I still have some room in the rear so I think I'll add 6mm spacers @ the rear next spring. I'll just have to try them and see if there is any rubbing.

The lips on the srches are stock; not rolled or trimmed.

What tires are you using? I went w/ the 50 series because I like the look and the change it makes in overall gearing. Again, since I'm on the street , I like the better acceleration @ the sacrifice of overall top end. Remember, different tire brands can measure out differently despite having the same spec. A wider tire may cause a problem, but I don't know @ which point this would occur.

Also, if you have a pre 74 (I think) the flare, such as it is, is actually slightly less than the later S version.

Thanks for your kind remark.


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