Value over time Carrera 3.2

[rick-l]

http://www.rba.gov.au/

0.8639

$40,000 aus = $34,556 us

[GH85Carrera]

Anyone that buys a Carrera as JUST an investment is crazy. A 2% savings at account with compound interest would be a ton better. I have my Carrera because it is a FUN toy that will take me down fun roads and the occasional DE.

The cost of insurance and maintenance is more than the increase in value. The real bottom line is I have a totally fun toy that I love, and after 13 years it is worth more money than I paid for it. How many other toys do that? Look at the price of a used bass boat today that cost 20 grand in 1995. It would be easy to spend 20 grand in 13 years on golf. What would you have but memories and a set of used clubs that are not worth much.

Don't buy a Porsche as an investment, buy it because you love the car and drive the wheels off if it. In the end if the toy is actually still worth what you paid for it you are a winner.

[richde]

Originally Posted by wolf

here in holland they go up a bit. a good 3.2 coupe will go for 18-19K € private.
in deutschland prices are considerably higher, up to 30-40K.

Whoa, that can't be right for German prices. Know anybody that wants an '84 ROW coupe?

[wolf]

check it on mobile.de.
lots of dutch cars going back to germany these days...

[Dave (Oz)]

Robbyg, I hink our market is a little specialized here in Oz. The Glass' guide prices are at best a really rough guess - you get huge variance around them. Remember that these were rare yuppie cars when new: We have right hand drive 'ROW' models, which is are a rare variant. The top dollars only go to Oz delivery vehicles with matching numbers and history. The only other big markets for these were in UK where rust is a bigger issue than many parts of Oz. Original Oz delivery vehicles in good condition go for good money (Carrera or SC) and are likely to at least hold their value if well maintained and used as they are meant to be (regularly and hard). But (especially with the strength of the Oz $ in recent times) there are lots of LHD california imports and RHD Japanese cars being imported and in the dealer yards right now, so there are some pretty cheap cars out there also. It remains to be seen how well these will do in the long term and what effect these will have on the market for original cars....

[Macroni]

carrera's are very sturdy cars w/ no rust issues. They were produced to the point of dealer discount in the late 80's. I think there will always be exceptional examples of these cars being found in garages down the road.

Now a Club Sport is another discussion...... Limited edition, highly desirable = strong value.

[richde]

Originally Posted by wolf

check it on mobile.de.
lots of dutch cars going back to germany these days...

Eh, I didn't go through the trouble of translating the ads on autospot24, but those are low, low mileage and probably close to restored cars going for high dollar. Most of the difference is the strength of the Euro vs. the Dollar.

[KeoRS]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Anyone that buys a Carrera as JUST an investment is crazy. A 2% savings at account with compound interest would be a ton better.

Old school thread resurrection (sorry! Haha)

Now, I'm all for owning a car to enjoy it (not just a potential investment), but man I wish I had bought 1 or 2 more 911s a few years back. Sure as hell would have done better than 2% even including running costs.

Oh well, at least I have one!

[GH85Carrera]

In just 4 days I will have owned my 85 Carrera for an even 20 years.

It is easily worth 50% more than I paid for it. I have driven it over 80,000 miles or 4,000 miles per year. I have driven it to California three times, the the east coast twice and almost to the coast once. Next year I will drive it through all the far NE New England states on the way to my goal of driving my Porsche in all the lower 48 states. It has been on several tracks from Laguna Seca to Roebling Road at speed and all the way to the upper peninsula of Michigan.

In that same 20 years if I had put the money I spent on it in a conventional investment that would be worth way more than the car. But I would have missed out on 20 years of smiles 100 or so autocrosses and several DEs and 20 years of fun driving.

Yep it was worth every penny.

[Cook&Dunning]

I picked up some parts today for my 89 3.2 from a guy that bought a 1977 Turbo roller for $12,000. Then he paid $4500 for the 3.0 engine and a little more for the matching trans. This was back in 2008. Guy looks like a genius today.

Like others have said - maybe it is not an investment - but as GH85 has done - keep it, drive it!

[wayne robson]

Examples that are low miles ,stock original is probably really critical
if you want to keep your value up,interesting now at pebble beach new class is changing
in the world of classic cars, where emphasis on originality is paying off,one example ,last january scottsdale ariz two virtually identical 1956 Mercedez 300sl gullwing coupes,both painted black red interiors were on offer, but any similarity ended there.It was like beauty and the beast,one car was perfectly restored 10 point example,the other was untouched,filthy, sagging headliner, torn seats, rats nest under the hood.
The ugly duckling sold for $1.9 million, $500.000 more than its twin, .This is what is happening now in the classic world, so think before you change that original item on your Porsche.Importing a few facts the dollar exchange today is 72cents to US dollar,you can not import a left hand drive to Ausy unless its 30 years old,shipping cost,allow at least $600 for wharf costs, plus GST charges on all the above.at 10%,so it costs can be higher than you think.A photo of my latest import 9 months ago,complete stock 44000 84 Carrera.

[wildthing]

Bought my car to drive around and for the few autocrosses that I can attend. I don't mind the price appreciation, though it hurts that I couldn't buy another one as easily as I did 4 years ago.

[Coastr]

Originally Posted by wayne robson

Nice car.

The rule for importing into Australia is:

1) If the car is made before Jan 1, 1989 you can import it. There are several companies that can handle all this for you.
2) If the car is made after Jan 1, 1989, you can only import it as a 'Personal import' which means you have owned and driven the car in the source country for 12 months or longer. This requires documentation - registration and insurance records, parking permits, service records withe mileage and copies of your passport to make sure you didn't fly in, buy it, stick it in a warehouse and then fly back 12 month later.

The current travels of the blue 911 up the West Coast are being done by an Aussie - because the car is pre-1989 he can just import it when finished.

Why Jan 1, 1989? Because that's when they grandfathered in the old rules. But now it is a fixed date.

Also, in most Australian states the car must be 30 years old before you can register it as a LHD. Only in one or two you can register a 15 year old LHD car.

There are a lot of RHD converted US cars in Australia but these generally sell for less due to the conversion factor (not all conversions are equal). For whatever reason 'Australian Delivered' cars fetch the most money - sometimes a 20% premium.

Currently 3.2 Carreras are being advertised in Australia (and apparently sold) by dealers in the $80-130k bracket. Current AUD/USD Exchange rate is .71 so that makes $56-90k USD. Top prices are for late model, low mileage Australian delivery cars in mint original condition. However, turnover is rare at the moment and most cars are sold the same day (or morning) they are listed. No doubt private sales are happening but it's hard to say at what price. It's a while since a converted RHD exUS 3.2 has appeared for sale, so it's hard to say what the cheapest car you could buy is.

[arry911]

Wow UK market is flying. I brought my SC 4 years ago and I have been told its now worth 3 times what I paid for it, I have spent over £3000 on it but worth it.

[Vereeken]

So here I am in Belgium. Raining old women (yeah I know you do not get that, but think about it) reading this thread.

Dollar signs shoot through my eyes. These US-guys are really ignorant. 12 k for an SC....I am whipping out my checkbook and then I spot it... the thread started in 2008. Damn.

Anyway, please PM me if you live in 2008 and believe Twitter is for the birds and want to sell a nice driver SC for 12 K USD. I am paying 10% above market

[Vereeken]

Originally Posted by KeoRS

Old school thread resurrection (sorry! Haha)

Now, I'm all for owning a car to enjoy it (not just a potential investment), but man I wish I had bought 1 or 2 more 911s a few years back. Sure as hell would have done better than 2% even including running costs.

Oh well, at least I have one!

Oh my god. The memory of internet biting you in the bum....

My hindsight is 20/20.

[OsoMoore]

Originally Posted by Vereeken

Oh my god. The memory of internet biting you in the bum....

My hindsight is 20/20.

[wayne robson]

This is worth a look, VW beetle only 9000 miles, ebay 121743965036
sorry ,not sure how to paste to here, some one may do it , thank you.

[pepebaja]

here is the link you posted

Volkswagen Beetle Classic Sedan | eBay

64 bidders, over 34K

[wayne robson]

Many thanks pepebaja.