73 2.8 rsr 911 360 0636

[leonpotgieter]

Hi because a few people asked me for pics and info I will post all here. If anyone has pictures or info on this car i will really appreciate it. I will start at the beginni and post as the history goes.

Car Details
Type: 1973 Porsche Carrera RSR
Number Produced: 49
Date of Manufacture: February 1973
Date of delivery: March 1973
Country Allocation: Germany
Color: 3838 Viper Green (no one out of three)
Engine Number: 6930106
Gearbox: 7830630
1st Owner: Max Moritz
Delivery: Factory Pick up
Optional Extras: Limited slip diff ( 220 )
Black Lettering

[leonpotgieter]

Le Mans TEST 1973
The car was entered by Max Moritz but crashed out during the night.
Drivers: Gerd Quist
Dietrich Krumm
Race Number: 34
Qualifying time: 4,28:20
Position: DNF Engine

[leonpotgieter]

Jim clark Rennen Hockenheim DRM:

Non Championship race
Date: 1973-04-08
Position: 1st
Drivers: Gerd Quist
Race no: 104
Class: GT + 2.0

Targa Florio 1973
Position: DNF
Drivers: Gerd Quist
Jurgen Zink
Class: GT 2.0
Race Number: 112
Qualified: 10th 39’39”

[leonpotgieter]

I have two more pics that dont want to load ///

[juicersr]

Pix from Lemans:



After crash :

[leonpotgieter]

Le mans 1973
Here the car qualified in position 48 on the grid. The car ran very well up to the ninth hour when in crashed during the night while placed 30th over all. The front right of the car was destroyed during the accident and the car was unable to continue. Amazingly a pair of photos that was taken the morning after the accident made its way into our hands and is displayed here.

Position: DNF (Crashed Out)
Drivers: Gerd Quist
Jurgen Zink
Manfred Laub
Class: GT 3.0
Race Number: 43
Grid Position: 48
Qualifying Time: 4min 29,2 s
Laps Completed: 103
Registered Weight: 982







The pits for car 43 in the back.

I have another couple of pics that dont want to upload.

[twobone]

love it

[911 tweaks]

this thread I am sure is going to inspire some if not many to start their own clone projects... aaaaahhhhhheeemmm ahem (me!) ;-)
Thanks Leon for sharing... keep the info coming please and if you can upload a sound clip via utube or whatever of the car you have access to, that would be uber!!
Bob

[juicersr]

Anyone know what style mirror that is?

[boba]

A few more.

[juicersr]

Doesn't look like 'Gerd Quist's' driving skills were all that... that car took a beating in it's day.

+1 on the youtube clip, as well as engine bay shot! Thanks again Leon.

[RSTarga]

it sure is nice looking now, I am amazed at all the info you guys have

[leonpotgieter]

1974
After cashing the car at Le Mans, the car was converted to 74 RSR specifications. The car was then sold to Jurgen Lassig who raced the car in Boss as a sponsor but the car was still green.

DRM Hockenheim
Jim Clark Rennen Car on rihgt of pic

In the foto below the car can be seen at Jim Clark Hockenheim with the 1974 3.0 RSR body. Here the car is parked next to the Max Moritz racing teams new car which they acquired for the 1974 season.
Date: 07.04.1974
Position: 6th
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D



During 1974 the original engine for 911 360 0636 was replaced with a stronger engine presumably a 3.0 motor like the ones found in a 3.0 RSR. The original engine found its way into an EBS prototype racer in 1974 that was also owned by Max Moritz Racing. The EBS prototype was subsequently exported to the USA and then later to Australia was the car still resides today. The car is still powered by the original engine that was removed from RSR 911 360 0636.

Eifel Rennen Nurburgring DRM
Date: 1974-04-28
Started: 46
Position: 9th
Driver: Gerhard Fetzer / D
Race Time: 1:03.07,0

Neubiberg
Date: 1974-05-05
Position: 3rd
Driver: Jurgen Lassig / D
Race no: 255
Laps: 10

DRM Mainz-Finthen
Date: 02.06.1974
Started: 49 (I – 25, II -24)
Position: 6th
Driver: Fetzer / D
Race No: #52
Race Time: 0:28.46,35 30 (Laps)

DRM Hockeneim Rheinpokal
Date: 09.06.1974
Started: 35 (I – 17, II – 18)
Position: DNF (Accident 11 laps)
Driver: Gerhard Fetzer / D
Qualifying 10


Kassel-Calden
Date: 18.08.1974
Position: DNF
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D



DRM Hockenheim
Preis der Nationen Round 6
Date: 1974-08-24
Started: 62 (I - 25, II - 37)
Position: 7th
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Entrant: Max Moritz
Race Time: 0:42:32,000 (18 Laps)
Qualifying: 7



DRM Hockenheim
Preis der Nationen Round 6
Date: 25.08.1974
Started: 62 (I - 25, II - 37)
Position: 7
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Entrant: Max Moritz
Race Time: 0:42:32,000


Mainz-Finthen
Date: 01.09.1974
Position: 3rd
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no: # 159

Ulm Mengen
Date: 15.09.1974
Position: 3rd
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D

Hockenheim
Date: 10.11.1974
Position: 1st
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D

Hockenheim
Date: 01.12.1974
Position: 2nd
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no: # 2

1975
Nurburgring 300Km
Int. ADAC-300-km-Rennen um den Goodyear-Pokal, Nürburgring Nordschleife
Date: 31.03.1975
Position: 7th
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no: #19
Laps: 44

DRM Eifelrennen
Nurburgring
Date: 27.04.1975
Position: DNS
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no: #6

DRM Mainz – Finthen Flugplatzen
Mainz – Finthen Round 3
Date: 15.06.1975
Started: 47 (I - 19, II - 28)
Position: DNF (17 laps)
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race Time: 0:54,100
Qualifying: 9

DRM Norisring
200 Meilenvon Nurnberg Round 4
Date: 29.06.1975
Started: 27 (I - 13, II - 14)
Position: 7
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Entrant: Max Moritz
Qualifying: 10
Race no: 39

Flugplatz Diepholz
Diepholz Round 5
Date: 20.07.1975
Started: 39 (I - 22, II - 17)
Position: 6
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no 0:43:21,20
Qualifying: 10

GP von Deutschland
Nurburgring
Date: 03.08.1975
Position: DNS
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race no: 141


DRM Kassel-Calden
Flugplatzrennen Kassel-Carden Round 7
Date: 17.08.1975
Started: 41 (I - 22, II - 19)
Position: 7
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race Time: 0:43:21,200 (1 lap down)
Race No: 66
Qualifying 13


DRM Hockenheim
AvD Pries er Nationen Hockenheim Round 8
Date: 31.08.1975
Started: 28 (I - 14, II - 14)
Position: 10
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D
Race Time: 0:47:35,200 20 Laps
Race No: 11

DBergpreis Achwabische
Date: 21.09.1975
Position: 7th
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D



DRM Hockenheim
Preis von Baden-Wuttemberg und Hessen Round 9
Date: 28.09.1975
Started: 57 (I - 22, II - 35)
Position: 6
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D

1976
Nurburgring
300 KM
Date: 04.04.1976
Position: 9
Driver: Jürgen Lässig / D

Sold to Erich Schiebler of Munich, Germany.

Krahbergrennen
Date: 02.05.1976
Position: 1st
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D
Race no: #249

Schwanbergrennen
Date: 16.05.1976
Position: 2nd
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D

Altmuhtal-Bergrennen
Date: 30.05.1976
Position: 2nd
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D

Rusel-Bergrennen
Date: 13.06.1976
Position: 2nd
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D

DRM Hockenheim
Pries von Baden Hockenheim Round 3
Date: 20.06.1976
Started: 34 (I - 11, II - 23)
Position: 9
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D
Entrant: Vereinigung Süddeutscher Automobilsportler
Race Time: 0:37:35,200 (14 laps)
Race no: 17

Jura-Bergrennen
Date: 11.07.1976
Position: 3rd
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D

Byerwald-Bergrennen
Date: 01.08.1976
Position: 2nd
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D



Rheingau-Bergrennen
Date: 15.08.1976
Position: 1st
Driver: Erich Scheibler / D

1976 – 1980
Sold to Mr. Lundegaard in Sweden were the car was raced extensively. During its stay in Sweden the car competed in the Swedish championships where it won the 1979 Swedish Championships. During the cars stay in Sweden the car received a full 935 body kit and also a 3.5 liter engine that is still in the car today. Believed that at this point the car received a 3.5 liter engine and 935 body work

1980 – 1984
During the early eighties the car was owned by Mr. Anckarberg. The history at this point is very much unknown.

1984 – 1987
During 1974 the car was sold to Mr. Borje Skinner from Stockholm in Sweden. The cars racing history during these two years are also very much un known.

1987 – 1988
In 1987 the car was sold to Chester Wedgewood from Autofarm in the UK by Bo Strandell from Kremer Racing in Germany who acted as the agent during the sale. The selling price to Autofarm was a mere 25000 Pounds.
The car was imported into the UK in Jan 1988 with yellow 935 body work which it received while owned by Mr. Lundegaard. During 1988 the car competed in the Intermarque series and in Porsche club modified races where the car did have some success but the car was never fully sorted.
During a race at Brands Hatch the cars was rammed by another car. When the car was repaired the original color, viper green was replaced. The car then had another accident at Silverstone and was sold in its crashed state to Sigi Brunn

1988 – 1996
Sigi Brunn then under took a full restoration of the car to original factory specification. The 935 body was replaced with completely original RSR body work with steel flares and original bumpers.
During the cars stay at Sigi Brunn the car was raced in various local events and club days. The most prestigious event that it the car was chosen to take part in, was the Tour Auto in 1993. The car returned to the tour Auto in 1994 and 1995.

1996 – Date
The car was then sold to its current owner Theo du Toit. He entered the car into the Tour Auto with Sigi Brunn in 1997,1998 and 1999 after which the car was imported from Germany into South Africa. The car has since been seen at some fun days and a Porsche club event but has not been raced competitively.

Since 2006 the car history has been researched extensively and various interesting details on the car came to light. After finding the Flymodel of the car we knew that there must be pictures of the car. Fly model was friendly enough to supply us with these photos which are some off the ones seen here at le mans 1973.

In 2008 the car won the Porsche club concourse in South Africa after receiving its 1973 livery again. During preparation for the concourse the original seats, seat belts and steering wheel was replaced. A week after the concourse the car was seen at Kyalami on the Porsche club funday.

[leonpotgieter]

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[leonpotgieter]

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[Flieger]

This is also a Max Moritz car- is it the same chassis?

[obrut]

leon,

here is the spider with the 2.8RSR motor. it is still in sydney and a friend of mine recently purchased it.


"1972 URD 676 / Porsche interseries sportscar

Also known as the EBS Spider, this car was built in Germany in the early 1970s to compete in the under 3 litre sportscar series and hillclimbs. Chassis is a URD and it is powered by a genuine 2.8 RSR engine ( ex Max Moritz 1973 Le mans car ) and driven through a 400 series Hewland gearbox. The car was sold by Moritz to the USA in 1979 and raced through the 1980s and 90s in SCCA and Historic events ( It was the feature article in the 1993 December edition of Excellence magazine )"

[boba]

Originally Posted by leonpotgieter

1974
After cashing the car at Le Mans, the car was converted to 74 RSR specifications. The car was then sold to Jurgen Lassig who raced the car in Boss as a sponsor but the car was still green.

DRM Hockenheim
Jim Clark Rennen Car on rihgt of pic

In the foto below the car can be seen at Jim Clark Hockenheim with the 1974 3.0 RSR body. Here the car is parked next to the Max Moritz racing teams new car which they acquired for the 1974 season.

Am I correct in thinking that you are refering to the Viper Green car on the far right of the photo and not the Foto Quelle car? It is my understanding the the Foto Quelle car is 9114609060 and is a '74 3.0 RSR. Here are some photos of the car as it is today.

[leonpotgieter]

It is the car on the right and not the 74 car in the Hochenheim picture as mention in caption. The orange Max Moritz car is another chassis not sure which one

[juicersr]

Excellent, close up, drive-by footage (with sound) of this car coming down one of the main staights in Cerda(?) chasing the works RSR in the 1973 Targa. This car iis visible starting at 1:38 in the footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAn5H9lG_34

Damn, those slide valve 2.8 and 3 liter prototype sound just as fantastic as the Ferrari and Alfa twelves! Does the car still sound that good Leon??

For those fans of the Targa F and the cars in it, this is from part 4 of a series of what i think is one of the best documentaries of the Targa, of one of the best years, 1973. The sounds in these are incredible, including some 'in cockpit' footage of from the Ferraris and Alfas

Part 1 has a great clip of the 3.0 prototype 'Mary Stuart' RSR hanging it's tail out around a curve at 1:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7wcYqL8z0M

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4hc_HbZAM

Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWIBY6EDOOc

Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbXA7Qp_QA

My French sux. Anyone care to translate what Ickyx is saying in the beginning of Part 4?