Oregon Porsche owners...HEADS UP

[pwd72s]

Moderator, move this to OT or politics forum if you must. However, this should be important to all car guys. These ideas spread from one state to another like wildfire...

So you thought Big Brother wasn't coming after your car or pickup?

Read this, and then please contact everyone on this committee. First it will
be limits on tire sizes and suspension. Then it will be horsepower limits.
Then we'll be forced into hybrids or electric cars, all in the name of
"man-caused global warming" which is a giant fraud.


Oregon Introduces Bill to Prohibit Sale

of Aftermarket Parts



At the request of Governor Theodore Kulongoski, the Oregon Speaker of
the House has introduced legislation (H.B. 2186) to prohibit the sale and
distribution of aftermarket motor vehicle parts if alternatives are
available that "decrease greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." The
bill is primarily focused on aftermarket tires and would authorize the
Environmental Quality Commission to implement enforcement regulations,
likely based on a rolling resistance calculation.

We Urge You to Contact Oregon Speaker of the House Dave Hunt and Members
of the Environment and Water Committee (Contact Information Below)
Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 2186


* H.B. 2186 would regulate vehicle fuel economy, an authority
reserved to the federal government.
* H.B. 2186 could ban tires that may have improved performance,
handling or appearance features, based solely on a rolling resistance
rating. In addition, this program could easily distract consumers from
focusing on more important safety issues such as tire inflation and
overloading of vehicles.
* H.B. 2186 would force consumers to purchase only original
equipment manufacturer (OEM) tires because the program essentially exempts
OEM-selected tires and unfairly implies that they are superior to
aftermarket products.
* H.B. 2186 could prohibit aftermarket parts designed to either
personalize or optimize specific vehicle performance attributes including
handling, towing, suspension, fuel economy, etc.
* H.B. 2186 provides broad authority to government regulators and
could limit a range of aftermarket parts currently available to consumers
based on the subjective determination of government regulators.
*

DON'T DELAY! Please contact Oregon Speaker Dave Hunt and the House
Environment and Water Committee immediately to urge his opposition to H.B.
2186.

Oregon House Speaker Dave Hunt

Phone: 503/986-1440

Email: rep.davehunt@state.or.us

Oregon House Environment and Water Committee

Representative Ben Cannon - Chair

Phone: 503/986-1446

Email: rep.bencannon@state.or.us

Representative Jules Bailey

Phone: 503/986-1442

Email: rep.juleskopelbailey@state.or.us

Representative Phil Barnhart

Phone: 503/986-1411

Email: rep.philbarnhart@state.or.us

Representative Cliff Bentz

Phone: 503/986-1460

Email: rep.cliffbentz@state.or.us

Representative Deborah Boone

Phone: 503/986-1432

Email: rep.deborahboone@state.or.us

Representative Vic Gilliam

Phone: 503/986-1418

Email: rep.vicgilliam@state.or.us

Representative Bob Jenson

Phone: 503/986-1458

Email: rep.bobjenson@state.or.us

Representative Jefferson Smith

Phone: 503/986-1447

Email: rep.jeffersonsmith@state.or.us

[911-GuardsRed]

If it starts there, this will spread like a plague.

[pwd72s]

This arrived from a drag racing friend, but if ever there was a time for all car guys to unite, regardless of vehicle preference, it's now. Yep, these things can spread like wildfire...I posted this on an off road forum as well..

[Eric 88 Carrera]

Elections have consequences. If you elect pro-socialist, environmental extremists then don't be surprised if they act that way.

Is this an Example of Change that We can Believe in?

[Casket]

Oregon has become really crazy like this over the last 10 years or so. Sadly, this latest tidbit doesn't surprise me at all.

...Yet another reason we're moving down to Texas later this year.

[450knotOffice]

Of course!! Why am I not surprised?

Good luck Oregonians. Defeat this!

[pwd72s]

OEM tires? This concerns me for those with 356's, early 911's, and how about the hot rod set with their deuce coupes, old muscle cars, '40 Fords, etc.? How to get "OEM" for the old stuff?

But then, the "green" set wants everybody to drive a hybrid, right?

[juanbenae]

wow! that trumps the craziness of california even. i guess i should not say such as on law makers will want some. prolly a good thing for companies like AIM tire. a race tire shop at a race track may be exempt and able to get other tires??

the move to dedicated track car looks better and better every day.

[kodioneill]

keep voting democrat and that's what you get!!! they are the party that supports that crap. you can deny it all you want but it's true.

[myamoto1]

What a smart decision in such a booming economy. Let's figure out a way we can eliminate even more jobs and companies. We should just outlaw dirt, and be done with it.

[mjshira]

this is becoming silly now. what can be better for the environment than making a car last 50 years?

[kodioneill]

Originally Posted by mjshira

this is becoming silly now. what can be better for the environment than making a car last 50 years?

how is that bill going to do that?

[subwayrat356]

The lack of concern for the environment displayed by some of your responses makes me want to quit this forum. You can be a "car guy" and still care about your world. The original poster's assertion that "man-caused global warming" is a giant fraud followed by one maybe two valid points demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.

[URY914]

So sell your cars subwayrat and ride that Schwinn of yours but don't pass laws that changes my way of life.

[Dantilla]

Originally Posted by subwayrat356

The lack of concern for the environment displayed by some of your responses makes me want to quit this forum. You can be a "car guy" and still care about your world.

Yes, but tell me how it's going to help the environment to force me to take off the new-technology Michelin tires off of my 911, and try to find the tires that were originally supplied in 1973.

[dafischer]

Originally Posted by subwayrat356

The lack of concern for the environment displayed by some of your responses makes me want to quit this forum. You can be a "car guy" and still care about your world. The original poster's assertion that "man-caused global warming" is a giant fraud followed by one maybe two valid points demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

[subwayrat356]

no doors on the internet.

[mjshira]

Originally Posted by subwayrat356

The lack of concern for the environment displayed by some of your responses makes me want to quit this forum. You can be a "car guy" and still care about your world. The original poster's assertion that "man-caused global warming" is a giant fraud followed by one maybe two valid points demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.

The real lack of thinking is evidenced by your post here. There is nothing wrong and a lot right, with better fuel economy and responsible eco laws. But this proposal is not reasonable: its targeted at controlling people lives 'beyond' as reasonable level. Those who support such state power grabs are either A) fools because they don't realise freedoms they have might be the next target OR B) socialists and want the state to force 'others' to live how it sees fit. Both of these are unAmerican.

[subwayrat356]

Does everyone here agree that man-caused global warming is a giant fraud?

[kodioneill]

Originally Posted by subwayrat356

The lack of concern for the environment displayed by some of your responses makes me want to quit this forum. You can be a "car guy" and still care about your world. The original poster's assertion that "man-caused global warming" is a giant fraud followed by one maybe two valid points demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.

you prove to me right now that there is global warming, much less man made global warming. show me some facts. critical thinking my a**.

hey pwd72s this guy is one of your constituents.