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dtw 04-24-2009 09:56 AM

Congratulations on your purchase of the elusive Lamborgheetle.

Sure, you're going to have Civic DXs eating your lunch, but at least you'll look good doing it.

If this is Mike or one of the other jokers having a late April 1 joke on us, then well played.

ClickClickBoom 04-24-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa76911S (Post 4624451)
Hi all I’m a nooB here with a 911 I just got. I saw this 911 on the street for sale a few streets down in my hood. He was askin $8000 for it but after talkin with him and seein sum rust bubbles round the windshield and drivin it and feelin its down on power I was gonna walk away…but then git this he says $5000 cash and its yours! It looked hella sweet so I jumped on it.

It’s all hooked up with expensive Diablo rims and the “turbo” body kit and a decent stereo. The Porsche needs work no doubt but I can fix cars pretty good for a 19 year old...my first car wuz a 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse I fixed up a bit but got stolen and I got paid out, so now I got the Porsche and $2000 to fix it! I don’t know much about Porsches but I dreamed about a 911 Turbo since seeing the movie BadBoyz growin up.

One thing tho is that it doesn’t have have much go power…
my Eclipse non-turbo would smoke it. The car says “911S” on the rear lid and the dash, and I googled it and that’s the most powerful 911 in the 70s around 200hp stock. But my pink says “912E” when I asked about that he said ”that’s just what they called the base model of the 911…same car”. I googled 912Es and what he said is true but it has a smaller engine? So how do I tell what model I got can ya tell from the pics? And what should I check for when the power is low. It don’t smoke or anything so I hope it don’t need rebuilt.

Thx for ur help.

OMG! I am rolling on the floor!

Playa76911S 04-24-2009 10:34 AM

>>If you like the car as an "image car", and want to learn more about these classics -

Yup that's how Im thinkin now...perfect car for stylin thru college then Ill make some doh and make it kick ass fast. Chicks at college dont care how fast it is just how it looks at da club LOL!

>>Great! But I kind of get the impression you might be happier in a different car, say a modified WRX.

No way...only spoilt college frat boys drive them. Porsche is just my style.

OK I will go to the 912 board then. I dont have $7500 for a 911 motor thats more than my car! The dude I bought it from said I should do a Rennegate Chevy conversion if I want more power for cheap which is what he was gonna do with it but taht sounds like a ton of work. Not to mention why put a Chevy motor in a Porsche.

Byby 912 hatuz LOL! Just kiddin thanks for your help.

dw1 04-24-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa76911S (Post 4625884)
Yup that's how Im thinkin now...perfect car for stylin thru college then Ill make some doh and make it kick ass fast. Chicks at college dont care how fast it is just how it looks at da club LOL!

...Porsche is just my style.

This is from a college student. (I wonder at which college or university this gentleman has matriculated?)

A college student who doesn't know the difference between a 911 and a 912, but has decided "Porsche is just [more] my style" ?

Makes me want to go back to classic British sports cars.

I fear for our collective future.

(BTW, I agree this is probably a joke, as the writing style is just so stereotypically absurd and ignoramus-like, but it's fun to play along.)

hcariss 04-24-2009 10:46 AM

Yo Playa 'sup son heres tha' word
Aiiiggght loose the dubs, do some research at yo crib, loose the 'Bad Boyz' body kit, take #3 back to its original state, save to put your money into a Jake Raby monster motor.
As it is yo sell those wheels to someone with a 89 Caprice & get some Fuchs or better for your budget Cookies (not the kind from Pepperidge farm) you will be better off,
Don't forget 'G' the E its a considerably lighter mid engined car, if the compact cars pass you on the straight see which of them can out corner you, your homies ridin' witcha can throw up gang signs, spray on 'I am King' aftershave or flash the Mossburg as you pass.

Flipside ... go get yo burner and front on his jujitsu ass.
Peace .

teenerted1 04-24-2009 10:51 AM

playa going broke on this one too
http://www.renegadehybrids.com/#
How to Pick a Good Donor Car

1965 to 1968 Short wheel base, 901 transaxle good to only 300HP, OK brakes.
1969 Longer wheel base, still 901 tranny and OK brakes.
1970 to 1971 Very poor 911 tranny. OK brakes.
1972 to 1973 Still early rounded hood body style. 915 early 7:31 ring and pinion tranny, OK brakes
1974 Later body style, flat hood. 915 early 7.31 ring and pinion tranny, OK brakes.
Late 1975 to 1977 915 with 8:31 ring and pinion. Ok brakes. Galvanized chassis to fight rust.
1978 to 1983 Better SC brakes and good 915 tranny.
1984 to 1986 Very good Carerra brakes.
1987 to 1989 Very good G-50 tranny.
Typical Cost of a 300 HP Conversion Project

The following list reflects the typical cost of converting a 911, 912, or 930 to a 300 hp Chevy. This list assumes you will use conversion parts supplied by Renegade. If you wish to do some of the fabrication yourself or wish to install used parts, this will enable you to save money. Although utilizing used parts is definitely a cost saving measure, more time and effort will be required to locate and adapt these parts.

The basic engine kit is exclusive to Renegade Hybrids. The parts included in this kit are custom made in-house, through fabrication or modification. None of these parts can be readily obtained form any other source. Other components required for the conversion can be fabricated or purchased from other sources. However, the easiest and most expedient way to complete the entire conversion is to purchase the components offered by Renegade.

$2,000 250 HP MOTOR FROM CHEVY W/ ACCESSORIES
$1,749 RENEGADE 911 V8 CONVERSION (NON A/C)
$350 RENEGADE CUSTOM HEADERS
$280 REAR TORSION BARS (30MM)
$1,100 CUSTOM ALUMINUM RADIATOR AND DUAL FAN PACKAGE W/ ALL REQUIRED MOUNTING AND DUCTING SHEET ALUMINUM
$850 NEW, ALL ALUMINUM, 16 GAL, GAS TANK
$120 COOLANT HOSE TO RUN FROM RADIATOR TO MOTOR
$6,250 TOTAL
Optional Upgrade

$375 KEVLAR "SPORT" CLUTCH DISC
$295 HIGH PERFORMANCE PRESSURE PLATE
$6,919 GRAND TOTAL

Rot 911 04-24-2009 10:59 AM

Not doubt Playa gave everyone here a laugh to start with, but instead of getting pissed and leaving the board, he stuck around and modified his writing to make us old farts happy. Now it turns out that due to his inexperience, he got taken on the car. Not like that hasn't ever happened to any of us. That aside, he is sticking around. He has already received some good advice. Might as well see what he can do to at least make it presentable.

Hell if Playa can keep the dollahs on the low side he be havin one sweet ride! :D

Welcome to the board Playa!

barndoor 04-24-2009 11:03 AM

Renn...
 
Playa,
I think you should listen to the guy that sold you the car,after all he's a nice guy and Tai-Chi expert.
Go with the "Rennegate Chevy" conversion.
I think there is a site for those,called Rennpage or somthing like that....:D

seafood10 04-24-2009 11:08 AM

I had to double check and make sure that I was on PelicanParts.com and PelicanPizarts.BOY

Shaun @ Tru6 04-24-2009 11:21 AM

Just substitute 911 for G5.

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hcariss 04-24-2009 11:39 AM

Playa feel sum luv at 912bbs.org ... its a E thang wrapped ina G thang

terrific post Shaun

dw1 04-24-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsmith660 (Post 4626156)
If you are going to have a poser then park it. Thats just my opinion.

Did you have to use the "p" word (poser)? I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. ;)

Seriously, he's got the equivalent of a VW-engined kit car to impress the ladies. One with questionable heat, little or no A/C, no horsepower, expensive repair and service costs, and (probably) a lot of rust under the "bling." But aside from that.....

I respect 912's, as I do all Porsches (even water-cooled ones), but a customized one as a "poseur" car ?!?!

BTW, one should be suspicious of any car with a lot of body work and white paint. It is the best color for hiding flaws, according to the guys who ran the body shop I worked in many years ago.

barndoor 04-24-2009 01:51 PM

?
 
Hot Vette ?
Oh,you mean stolen.

snbush67 04-24-2009 01:54 PM

Poser = outside > inside (sheep in wolves clothing)

Sleeper = inside > outside (wolf in sheeps clothing)

This is an example of a "Sleeper" early car with a 3.0 in innocent unassuming trim: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/470338-hot-rod-targa.html

I really like this, this is the type that you get a glimpse of try to catch up to to get a closer peek, and he's gone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1240381788.jpg

cashflyer 04-24-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 4626261)
Poser = outside > inside

So, like an M491.

snbush67 04-24-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 4626273)
So, like an M491.

If the factory thought of it it doesn't count. ;)

vreference 04-24-2009 02:07 PM

targa-cabs have nothing to do with posing. When you go out of your way to make people believe your car is something it's not, such as badging a car as a turbo when it's not) you might be a poser. And yes, I'd say there is an acceptable ratio of dollars spent on horse-power compared to appearance that has to be considered.

To my mind, the car is a bit too flashy considering the pedestrian driveline. Any race that is lost by this car Especially to Minivans and Hondas) reflects poorly on the breed. It certainly fails the Power Mods/Appearance Mods test and the 911S badge needs to come off this second. Otherwise... I spend most of my time putting around in my car on the street anyway. Assuming it's not totaly rotted out, I think 5K Might be close to market value?

kidrock 04-24-2009 02:35 PM

a little Armor All on the tires will make them Jet Fockin Black and look Hella Sweet.

I'm sorry...I just feel as if I've been Trolled. ;)

dw1 04-24-2009 03:23 PM

Thinking about this thread a bit more (And , yes, I am a professional skeptic), I'm thinking more & more that it is either:

A frat pledge assignment, or

A Psychology class (or other class) assignment

Hmmmmm.....

dw1 04-24-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vreference (Post 4626278)
targa-cabs have nothing to do with posing. When you go out of your way to make people believe your car is something it's not, such as badging a car as a turbo when it's not) you might be a poser. And yes, I'd say there is an acceptable ratio of dollars spent on horse-power compared to appearance that has to be considered.

To my mind, the car is a bit too flashy considering the pedestrian driveline. Any race that is lost by this car Especially to Minivans and Hondas) reflects poorly on the breed. It certainly fails the Power Mods/Appearance Mods test and the 911S badge needs to come off this second.

+1 Thanks.

Dottore 04-24-2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dw1 (Post 4626387)
Thinking about this thread a bit more (And , yes, I am a professional skeptic), I'm thinking more & more that it is either:

A frat pledge assignment, or

A Psychology class (or other class) assignment

Hmmmmm.....

...quite possibly a social experiment....

Mia911 04-24-2009 03:54 PM

Well Playa all you can do right now is drive it as is.....but get rid of the wheels you will feel a little more power...also it will quicker fool some of the frats driving by....

georgeinhere 04-24-2009 04:06 PM

Clean up the car, get rid of the wheels and make sure that the engine is working fine...enjoy it for what it is and don't get into any races. Sinking your money into it is a mistake...just my opinion.

1987M505 04-24-2009 04:11 PM

Playa. Very unfortunate you bought something that was misleading.

I do believe you can still have fun with it though.

My suggestion:
Get those wheels off the car.
Find a set of Fuchs.
Find a proper spoiler or remove the current one.
If you are somewhat mechanical, learn the engine, tune it and have fun with it as it is. I wouldn't put any more money into the car then absolutely necessary. I think the more you drive the car, the more you will realize these cars weren't built so much for other peoples reactions but for you, the driver. Even with a 912 motor you'll experience something that other cars won't offer. My suggestion is to let the Eclipse's and Corvette's go on by. Learn your car and make it the best you can with what you have to work with. Finding this forum and the 912bbs.org definitely gives you the ability to troubleshoot and upgrade just about any aspect of your car.

It would be a good idea to inspect certain area's of the car for your own safety. The pictures previously posted of suspension points should be looked at in addition to many other areas. These things can be inquired about if you're interested in safety.

Mia911 04-24-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeinhere (Post 4626445)
Clean up the car, get rid of the wheels and make sure that the engine is working fine...enjoy it for what it is and don't get into any races. Sinking your money into it is a mistake...just my opinion.

+1 good advise 4 real....PLEASE DONT GET INTO ANY RACES.....LOL......then you might have ppl thinking they can keep up....SmileWavy

Jakester1168 04-24-2009 04:16 PM

Is this thead worth wasting our time?...

PLAYA is played out! :p

tony9704 04-24-2009 04:17 PM

Went to a small local dealer just outside Milwaukee, Wi that tried pulling the same crap. In my inexperience, I was pumped to maybe own my dream car for only 7000 big ones. It was only because of a carfax that I pulled that told me it was a 912, not a carrera 3.0. (fairly rare) a ten digit vin and a couple of difficult searches set me straight. I was shocked that even a dealer could try to pull this scam. In all fairness, it did have a flat 6, but the car was shot either way with rust and suspension problems. It was a very convincing clone. If you are from the area I am sure you know who I am talking about:) PPI man, PPI.

Mia911 04-24-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakester1168 (Post 4626458)
Is this thead worth wasting our time?...

PLAYA is played out! :p


Yea...but i do feel sorry for the young man.....for someone to do that...i dont care if the guys knows suejitsue or sue sister .....i would of taken it back and drive it up his ar$e sideways as a fellow pelican said...thats just wrong.....Playa next time do your home work..i know at the time you thought WOW what a deal.....but look at the bright side..yes its a PORSCHE maybe a 912 but heh the chicks do still dig it....:D

Jakester1168 04-24-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mia911 (Post 4626478)
Yea...but i do feel sorry for the young man.....for someone to do that...i dont care if the guys knows suejitsue or sue sister .....i would of taken it back and drive it up his ar$e sideways as a fellow pelican said...thats just wrong.....Playa next time do your home work..i know at the time you thought WOW what a deal.....but look at the bright side..yes its a PORSCHE maybe a 912 but heh the chicks do still dig it....:D

I agree Mia...and yet, here I am, still wasting my time on this thread...:D It's a damn vortex!! :eek:

barndoor 04-24-2009 06:03 PM

die nummer drei 912E
 
Playa
It looks like you have #3 912E
change the wheels to stock,remove the tail and list it on ebay as the third 912E built.(Give an honest description) Someone will want it.Sell the tail and ghetto wheels and buy a good running,the best you can afford 911SC 1978-1983 and you will be happy.

carnutzzz 04-24-2009 09:34 PM

I'm still hung-up on the fact that he thinks its "faster" to type in ebonics.

It don't be faster, Playa. It just don't.

Buh-Lee Dat!

signature65 04-24-2009 10:55 PM

check the 914 forum for engine work......same engine that was in those cars when they were new. Sorry to hear you got ripped off. Happens to the best of us and we all have been guilty of getting excited about a car and making rash decisions. Good luck with your new project

SB914 04-24-2009 11:24 PM

Care to share a photo of the VIN # ?

Milo2361 04-25-2009 05:50 AM

playa - i'm a college kid too - but i did about a years worth of research before i went out and bought mine - i love the car, fun, pretty fast, impresses the ladies and what not, but without doing a $#!% load of research there is no way i would have went in for ANY car - especially a porsche.

i originally considered a Nissan 350z - then i saw that i could own a classic porsche for around the same price - and the insurance would actually be lower.

some tips for the next time you go to buy a car - - inspect EVERYTHING play with all the knobs, buttons and all the little do-dads it might have in it. if there is something the guy tells you not to push i would start to think twice about your purchase - or atleast ask about it and try to get -dare i say it- an "honest" answer out of a used car salesman. count plugs/wires and make sure your engine has enough cylinders to get it moving. and always remember that a Porsche is not built for straight line speed.

rouxroux 04-25-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dw1 (Post 4626387)
Thinking about this thread a bit more (And , yes, I am a professional skeptic), I'm thinking more & more that it is either:

A frat pledge assignment, or

A Psychology class (or other class) assignment

Hmmmmm.....

you mean.....you mean....

A "social experiment"?:D
true dat, true dat!

Mia911 04-25-2009 06:46 AM

dont think that might work gsmith660 might make him more upset...oh well...... heres mine...welcome to the club playa
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u.../photo12-1.jpg
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/photo4-3.jpg

Milo2361 04-25-2009 09:05 AM

[QUOTE=gsmith660;4627215]A big red guy huh, hey dfink heres another Nebraskan, I am up that way often working at Copper and Ft. Calhoun occasionally. Post a pic of your car and we can make something of this thread we can turn this into an inspirational thread for playa. heres mine comments welcome (except you cashflyer):D[/Qoute]

sounds good! my pics are kinda crappy but hey- they'll do... the lighting makes the car look a bit more orange than it is red... but its red i swear it.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...41173_2973.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...41172_2674.jpg

and this last one is a bit blurry - - but it brings out the red better.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/im...2361/pcar1.jpg

Milo2361 04-25-2009 10:22 AM

i dont have a husker H or a Nebraska N on it, but my plates are the UNL athletic custom plates - - my plate number is "1980 SC"

you'd be amazed how many people ask what year it is...

Shaun @ Tru6 04-26-2009 06:51 AM

If you are thinking of your car with long term potential, you've got to jump on these:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/470507-fuch-16x9-16x8-sale.html

they are a first BIG step back from the long journey of poserdom.

FPB111 04-26-2009 07:20 AM

I doubt if we will see much of Playa on this thread anymore. Damm uppity 19 year old thought he had a nice car. Next time try not to sugar coat things so much.
Many of us seem so proud of the Pelican 911 forum gang initiation beat down he got. I think it was worse then the one Pesto360 got, although in that case in the end it turned out that he probably deserved it.


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