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911sc winshield question
I have an '83SC, the windshield looks great and has no chips or fogging etc., however when diving, toward the sun, there is fair amount of tiny little spec's that show up distinctly, I tried cleaning the glass, with no change at all. I assume, being 25 years old it is from age, is there any way of removing or lessening the light deflecting spec's, or is a replacement in order? That is, ofcourse, if I choose not to live with it the way it as.
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Maybe someone else has a way to treat the pitting without a replacement?
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That was and or is my thought also, i feel no pitting even with a razor blade, can pitting come with age alone, or is it actually wear? I'm in agreement about the glare, not good.
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Pitted (or as some wrenches say, 'sandblasted' from years of wear and debris). Replace it.
It will feel like a new car without the horrible glare, which I agree is a safety issue. Had same issue with my 81 and the new w/s is a huge improvement. If you have any leaks in the W/S seal, prepare yourself to deal with rust when w/s is removed. Mine leaked terribly in the lower right corner before replacement but luckily just a little surface rust that was easily removed and primed during the switch. New seal stopped all my leaks too. Last edited by schoward; 09-24-2008 at 06:23 AM.. |
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They are very, very small, can't feel them, but they refract sunlight, and affect your wiper performance. Replace it, you will be absolutely amazed. Truely. |
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If it's not pit like other people said. Pit is from the outside, so if you don't feel it when you touch it, it's bubble (from the inside of the glass). There is only 1 way to fix that, that is a new windshield
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Windshields are "wear items." After a time, they are worn out.
Quite frankly, I have reason to believe the German glass wears faster. Domestic reproductions are actually better.
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Oh......and replace the seal when you replace the glass. The "gasket" as it is called. If you can reuse the aluminum trim, great. But replace the seal. And DO NOT use an aftermarket seal. They do not fit.
Okay, one MORE thing. Read the threads here. There are techniques. For example, using the bare glass as a template to re-form the aluminum trim so it matches the glass contour well. If it does not, it will tend to pull the gasket away from the body of the car, causing leaks. Another trick is to carefully, after the glass is installed, using a piece of wood that has the right curve, tap the trim outward in the corners, especially the two lower corners. The trim and the gasket and the glass must be installed as a unit. The trim CANNOT be installed later. In fact, it is a little tricky to get the trim into its space in the gasket properly. And the rope. It has to be behind a fold that is inside the visible fold.
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I have the same issue with my windshield ('86). On mine, there is the antenna inbedded in the windshield. Is the cost of this replacement much more than the standard windshield?
Thanks.
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Yes - the internal antenna does cause the windshield cost to be significantly higher.
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A pit is a concave crater. Nothing sticking up. That's why you will not feel it with a razor or finger.
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Mine has the pitting too, but I can't bring myself to replace it as it has the very cool defroster wires running along the bottom third of it. Sentimental I guess.
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Speaking of cost, up here in the Adirondacks, seems I can't get a quote to replace a std 83 SC windshield, any idea how how much "installed", general ballpark price.
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Just had mine done in CO, around $300.
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$240, came to my office to do it. Denver also.
Would have been $300 if I'd needed a new gasket, but it was only a year old. |
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Robert Check with the "Glass Doctor" There seems to a few franchises near Albany area..
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Thanks, seems $350 is about the number, wonder how familiar these guys are with older 911's, would hate to end up with a leaker, a few more call to see about there experience, then getting it replaced. Thanks again.
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Installing an SC windshield is so easy--despite the fact that it initially seems so difficult--that paying hundreds of dollars to have somebody else do it is a huge waste, unless you simply don't have the time, which I can certainly understand.
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my gasket does leak, and therefore, i dont see why i should pay to have the glass installed, only to have to remove the glass again to inspect/treat rust, assuming there is some
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