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Superman
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What's Faster?

My '83 SC seems pretty quick to me, though I bow to many more modern cars, many of which are quicker now. And I've heard all about how Corvettes are Porsche-beaters in the acceleration category (930s and Turbos excluded).

On the other hand, performance cars, and particularly Corvettes, were a little on the sluggish side in the late '70s. Here's my question: How did my car stack up against other cars mfg'd in 1983? I can imagine there were exotic sports cars considerably quicker, but did the 1983 SC accelerate quicker than the 1983 Corvette? Were there any non-exotic cars (for example, RX-7 and Datsun Z-cars) that were quicker than the SC? How did my car stack up at that time?

FWIW: I don't street race much, but I needed a lane recently and drew swords with a hotrod Honda. The Honda was not a match for my baby. I know the newer Mustangs are popular prey for you Carrera guys, and I wonder if they'd be more evenly matched to my SC. This should start some discussion.

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Old 02-16-2001, 11:55 AM
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patalive
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An interesting aspect to this question is how many cars from 1983 are still healthy and running on the street and track. Be interesting to see some ratios of total number of cars each manufacturer produced compared to the respective number running today. Bet Porsches are near the highest, if not the highest.
Chuck
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Old 02-16-2001, 12:08 PM
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diverdan
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Just saw a very stock looking old Honda Civic in the March HOT ROD mag. It has no bottle, but an Eaton supercharger boosts to 27psi. 487 hp. That pulls this 2300 lb. wonder 11.04 @ 134.09 mph in the quarter. Hang on to your pink slip! ".....the world as we know it is coming to an end!"

Back in those days, the little 2.5 Alfa GTV6 was also faster than the 350 Chevies!

Those old Vettes were slugs, but big power is real cheap and little mods are required to the chassis to handle it. However capable, they still remain big and clunky feeling compared to the 911.

Dan
Old 02-16-2001, 12:09 PM
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Was there a 1983 Corvette??

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Old 02-16-2001, 12:19 PM
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Pillow
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At 27psi his days are numbered. Wonder what that thing would sound like when it explodes?

I have read reports of the SC 0-60 from a low of 6.0sec to a high of 6.5sec. I am not sure what quarter times they run.

Due to the age of my SC and clutch condition I know I cannot come close to 6.0sec 0-60. For some reason when I slip the clutch under power it burns the clutch and not the tires. Therefore I refrain from stop light drags... I do not think I could light up the meats to save my life on dry pavement. I think I run mid 7s on 0-60. Granted on the open highway I can pull away from almost anything.

The main asset to the SC in my opinion is its cornering prowess over the competition. I usually smoke ricers, Z cars, and even a new Supra in the twisties. I think with a reasonable driver the new Supra would smoke the SC on most all levels though

Old 02-16-2001, 12:28 PM
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Kurt V
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There was no 1983 Vette.

Kurt V
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Old 02-16-2001, 12:32 PM
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I used to have an '84(same as an 83) Mustang that would run ~14.1 sec quarter miles. Only 175 HP, but 250ft-lbs. of torque can do wonders off the line for ~2800 lb. car. Then I learned about curves in step-dad's 1968 912. Hence the 1981 SC I drive now.
Old 02-16-2001, 01:37 PM
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1983 was a very, very sad year. No Corvette, Chevy Z and Pontiac T/A were total slugs. I don't even remember what the "fastest domestic car-of-the-year" was. The SC surely was faster than anything domestic.
Old 02-16-2001, 02:04 PM
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SuperM,
To answer your question, just find a few old R & T, and Car & Driver mags. You may be surprised to find the road testers of the day proclaiming the 911 SC to be a "Supercar".

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Doug
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Old 02-16-2001, 05:30 PM
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Superman I can probably andwer your question. I currently own an 81 corvette with a 350 and automatic and an 81 911SC. My 911 will eat the corvette up it would be embarrassing. I have always known that 911's were fast but was quite pleasantly surprised how fast they really are and the nicest thing is they handle good too...love that powerband.

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Old 02-16-2001, 05:51 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, match up by year and the 911 and Corvette are pretty close every year nearly from the 80's and on. Anyone going to the Visit in Bowling Green? The Corvette Plant and museum is hosting the Porsche Club for one weekend. Its like last weekend in April.
Old 02-16-2001, 10:29 PM
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Don't forget braking! On the twisties, being able to brake later, harder and more often without fade, leaves most all the competition in the dust. I don't think there were many 1983, if any, rice cars nor American cars that could out-brake the SC. That's why the SC, and all Porsches, shine; they are balanced - acceleration, handling the twisties and braking.
Chuck
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Technology 25 yrs ahead of its time. The 1983 SC will still run with a lot of production cars built today. And will still be running 20 yrs from now.

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Old 02-17-2001, 05:20 AM
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Pillow:

That 27psi with 11.2 : 1 compression is an everyday driver! Total maintainence has been a couple of oil changes! I think that boy did his homework on piston and combustion chamber design. Something about air movement through the whole process. I wonder if his piston design would be applicable to P turbos. I have seen lots of wasted pistons on P cars here in the middle east that have had high boost and been run at high speed for too long.
Old 02-18-2001, 05:19 AM
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When the Carrera was introduced in 1984, Road and Track did a review and compared times with the 84 Corvette, Lotus, Ferrari, and a few other cars. The Carrera was considerably faster than the 84 Vette - somewhere between a second and half a second faster from 0-60 and topped out at 149 mph vs. about 120. In fact, it was the fasted car available in the US that year. According to that article, the SC was almost a second slower than the Carrera from 0-60, but the old Corvette was much slower than the 84 redesign. In both models, the Corvette tops out at about 110 to 120 while both the SC and the Carrera top out much higher than that.

My brother in law has a 78 Corvette and two friends have mid-70's models. None are slow, but they aren't even in the same class as a Carrera. An SC is clearly faster than Corvettes of the same year, without modifications. I believe the SC can be modified to be even faster than a 72-82 Vette could be modified to do.

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