Hi John,
That img nicely sums up why I've finally got the car I've promised myself for so long. I found your IB site about the time you were buying the Orange, and that's the car which inspired me. I also saw a photo of Franck's early on and loved that blue. Luckily I spotted the ad for mine before the photos were uploaded and got in before anyone else could see it
Al

Your car looks great! I have always been a fan of Mexico Blue but now I think I like Arrow Blue even more. Just a hint more depth to the colour. Is that a turbo front spoiler on your car? The black spoiler comes all the way up to meet the bumper bellows like the SCRS.

I agree about Arrow over Mexico, as I prefer the richer colour too, and well spotted on the spoiler. Unfortunately it's got a 930 whale tail too, but not for long. (Although I need to decide between flat, duck or C3 tail?). Your SCRS comment is interesting, as that is one is one of the inspirations I'm considering as I'm not a huge fan of the narrow 3.0RS look at the front, as the oil cooler box seems to project too far without the wide arches to back it up.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that your car is going to end up VERY close to where I hope to be, although my budget dictates a more leisurely development. I await your finished car with avid interest...

Kikwi...great project...could you please share more on your collapsed bumper mod? TIA

Essentially the impact bumper design allows for the bumpers to retreat back towards the body under sufficient impact. All I have done (probably not the first time this has been done) is to releave the pressure inside the bumper shocks so the bumper can be pushed back into the body. This is the easiest part. Simply remove each shock, place it in a bench vice and drill a hole through the shock casing near the end with the threaded stud. The shock is pressurized with a nasty sticky, smelly fluid like a heavyweight WD40 that will come squirting out so have something ready to catch it in and some rags to mop up what you miss. This will spray and then ooze out for some minutes. The shock can then be reinstalled re-attached to the bumper and the bumper will now compress back into the body. That is the easy part. The tricky part is making sure the bumper will now still blend into the surrounding body work (bellows, bumper extensions and lower valances). If you are keeping the belows the studs on the back will no longer match to the holes in the bumper blade. I am using fiberglass bumpers that look just like the stock aluminum bumper blade. This made it easy to drill new holes for the bellows to attach. On the front bumper, the bellows will now cover part of the orange side marker lense. I am using the rubber insert from the Euro bumpers which makes this less noticeable but will require slight trimming of the bellows to make a good fit. New bellows are a big advantage here as they are more flexible than ones that have been on the car 20 odd years. Both bumper blades may need some slight trimming to get the bellows to fit all snuggly. I have a two in two out sport muffler on my car which might give more room for the rear bumper to move back than the regular one in style muffler. I will post more pictures as mine get assembled.

great thread, subscribed!

Thanks for your response, Kiwi...Ireally am curious about the profile. I, too, feel them impact bumpers portrude too much. I assume you will have to spot weld the shocks so the bumper will not move. When collapsing them, do they bottom out to allow the bumper to move as far as you want it?

I believe the shocks have bottomed out. Once the bumpers are fitted the holes will be closed off with a sheet metal screw and the shocks tack welded to stop them moving. Even with the pressure released the shocks still have a reasonable amount of resistance to move the bumper in and out so you could leave them as is but this may change over time.

Headliner is in. Dash is at the upholsterer and the rest of the interior pieces will go on Monday. Color sanding has started.

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Quick photo of a door jam.
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Gratuitous engine shot as I can't get enough of that sport muffler.
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I always a enjoy a visit to Huber's just to see what interesting cars will be there....

An original Speedster receiving a new hood after undergoing a full restoration.
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Jeff's very orginal 911T and a Carrera GT
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Race car build with some original RSR bits....
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Very nice color! I really like the job you are doing on your car!

The white headliner also looks terrific. I replaced my headliner earlier this year. It was originally white (but was now quite stained looking). I opted for black, for the additional “safety” (i.e. would not show up stains). However, it really changed the look of the interior to a surprising degree. Made it darker and smaller… Although I am reasonably happy with the black, I do feel the white was better look (my interior is cork BTW). My car is a sunroof car though… which may increase the chance of the white headliner picking up dirt/grease etc.

The reassembly process now has some momentum. From these shots you can better see the results of moving the bumpers back. Interestingly now the bumpers are closer to the edge of the lower valance it really shows up the gap between the two. I might try and find some rubber trim to bridge the gap.

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The ducktail took quite a bit of shaping to fit but the effort seems to have been worthwhile.

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Rear bumper has been moved in also.

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The rear license plate lights posed a problem. I ended up going with a set of Hella lights for the BMW 2002 that I found new on eBay. Since the rear bumper has been shortened on each side the rubber trim strip that meets the bellows now extended further along the bumper. This allowed the trim to go all the way to the license plate light on each side. We are still debating how to close the gap between the two but it is not horrible so we may just leave it.

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Here is the big picture from the back end.

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and the front end.

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The dashboard has been recovered in OEM type black vinyl. The steering wheel is a Prototipo replica with white stitching (not yet installed) so I had a French seam done around the instrument binacle in the white also.

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Spacers have been added to the doors to fit 6.5inch components thanks to the template posted in another thread. This forum is a such a cool place to research ideas.

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In case I missed it, what ducktail mfr. did you go with?

It is a Getty Design ducktail. Jeff Huber thought it was a good reproduction but it still needed some shaping to fit right.

Is the replacemment panel for the rear reflector from Getty as well, or did you paint the reflector.
I LOVE that look!! I'm not a big fan of the PORSCHE across the back of my car and I'm looking for a replacement. I'm really tempted to paint my reflector because I'm weary of a properly fitting replacement.

I just bought a FG reflector delete panel from widebody911... he may have some more.
Cost $165 shipped. You can sell your OE reflector for about the same or more DOC.

My FG reflector delete panel I bought on eBay but I believe it is one made from widebody911 as noted above. The quality is really quite good.

Thanks!
Any leads on where I can get one? I just checked ebay for "911 reflector" and it wasn't there.

widebody911 is a member of this BBS. He has posted on these parts in the past. Do a quick search for his user name.

Thanks Tim. I pm'd him.

Sorry for the hijack. Now back to our regularly scheduled program "Overdue intro and hotrod SC project" ;)

This is looking great, and inspiring me to push on with mine.

I love the ducktail with a centre 2-out muffler, and it's a look I'd like too. The problem this side of the pond is very tight noise limits at tracks nowadays :(
Just a thought, now you've moved the bumpers back, have you considered using a 964 smile to reduce the bulk of black seal by the bonnet edge? I guess being smaller it'd be lighter too

Thanks, I really like the sport muffler but if you buy one make sure you get pipes long enough to stick out past the bumper. With the stock bumper you could barely see the pipes which sort of negates the purpose in my opinion. The 964 smile is a good idea but I have already spent the dosh for a new 911 one so I will live with it for awhile.

I doubt I'd get through noise checks here with a muffler like yours (and my local track at Goodwood is one of the toughest, despite also being a working airfield!) but I'm going to investigate further. Another option is the old Rally muffler style, which retained the std single side exit, but with extra 2 centre pipes with caps.

I really hope my scruffy beast can evolve into a stunner like your car, but it will take a while

I've got to do my headliner... someday. Was it very difficult? Looks like no fun.

I had the guy doing my interior put the headliner in so I have no first hand experience. If you do a search there are some good pictures of people doing their own headliner install. Looks like it is important to have lots of binder clips on hand. Good luck.

Cool project and great color choice. Thanks for sharing.

On the first page you posted a picture of the engine and trans from underneath....... Does it have the engine case from a 3.2 Carrera??? I thought all the SC cases had sump plates. I wonder what other parts from the 3.2 you have lurking in there? Seems odd to me, because clearly it's still CIS. Didn't know if anyone else noticed the case, or maybe I'm just wrong about the engine cases?

Hey Kiwiokie,
I forgot to ask you the last time I posted; whats the deal with your muffler? I know you said you had to extend the pipes, or something to the effect that they would have come out far enough on a stock SC bumper. I REALLY like the look of that muffler! What is the finish on it? Paint? Whatever it is it looks like it's held up well.
I'd like to do the front bumper recession definitely, but I'm not sure I'll do the rear and wonder if there is a muffler that the pipes will come out far enough to spare the back of the car the soot. (M&K offers the GT3 style and the Sport style)

Porsche changed to the new case design during the 1983 model year. The story goes that they were wearing out the dies and rather than make new ones for a partial year of production, they just elected to use the cases from the upcoming 3.2.

JR

I made no modifications to the muffler. It is a stock M&K sport muffler painted with high temp flat white paint. Probably not the most durable finish but I just love the look of white pipes sticking out the back. With the standard pipes and the stock bumpers the end of the pipe did not protrude past the bumper. Pulling the bumper back makes the pretty pipes more visible.

javadog, your cigar is in the mail. :) This is an '83SC which does not have the sump plate.

SmileWavy
I haven't been back for a while but great to see your progress. Looking great!
That gap would disappear with some black mastic, and the elasticity would prevent it cracking. Mask up the edge you want first on the lights though, as I usually cover myself and everything around in the stuff

Having pulled the 930 tea-tray off mine, I need to sort the back end and junk the rubber buffers. I'm also torn between buying a classic ducktail, or re-furbing the flat lid, while I've got a s/h GRP front valance coming which I've got plans for...

I look forward to your next updates!

Finally got the speakers mounted in the doors. They will be hidden behind the cloth of the door panel so they had to be mounted into the doors first.

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All of the glass is now in along with the black window trim. Paint has been polished but still awaits the final clean and shine until the interior is finished. The car is sitting on its new wheels and tires for the first time. Woohoo!

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I saw the drilled doors handles that TRE did on the fraise RSR and could not resist them. I hope they understand that imitation is the ultimate form of flattery.

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It is very satisfying to see all this come together after trying to picture in my mind for so many months how all the aesthetic bits would work on a complete car. I really like the way the frosted RSR wheels look against the arrow blue paintwork. Makes my old scratched and faded lug nuts look terrible though.

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Front crest and decklid badge will go on last..

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