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rbogh901 10-08-2009 01:31 PM

PMO/Weber filter element options
 
What are the options for air filters these days? Does K and N honor their million mile warranty? The rubber edge on mine is cracking and I'm wondering what the alternatives are. Thx.

rbogh901 10-08-2009 01:48 PM

And meanwhile, being basically a cotton element, what are the options for K and N cleaning solutions? Searches for K and N generally degenerate into discussions as to whether or not they are better than paper elements. I've used K and N cleaning, solution, cleaner, etc...

CruiseControl 10-08-2009 10:49 PM

While on this filter subject can anyone provide the K&N part numbers to suit the PMO / Webers
Have difficulty in sizing from the K&N catalogue
Paul

rbogh901 10-09-2009 11:01 AM

Does anyone clean their k an n's?

rfuerst911sc 10-09-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbogh901 (Post 4944068)
Does anyone clean their k an n's?

Yes I do I use K&N filter cleaner.:D

Formerly Steve Wilkinson 10-09-2009 03:52 PM

Me too.

brads911sc 03-25-2010 04:28 PM

sorry to revive this thread. I have searched...

I have new PMO ITB's with rain shields and K&N filters. Does anyone make a paper filter element that is the same size and shape as the K&N?

Thanks

rfuerst911sc 03-25-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 5258007)
sorry to revive this thread. I have searched...

I have new PMO ITB's with rain shields and K&N filters. Does anyone make a paper filter element that is the same size and shape as the K&N?

Thanks

That seems to be the million dollar question :D. I have asked on several forums and no one seems to know of a " regular " filter in the correct size.

Formerly Steve Wilkinson 03-25-2010 05:40 PM

As far as I know, the K&N is the only one. If you maintain it carefully and oil it according to instructions, it works fine. I'm simply not losing any sleep over what micron size of particle is making it through. Life's too short.

Between ZDDP compulsives, filter wackos, Cool Collar hysterics--yeah, I've got one of those too, took it off my last airplane when I sold it--Magnacor fanatics, Swepco sissies and oh-god-do-I-have-the-wrong-sparkplugs worrywarts, we probably should just park our little dears and have them cryogenically preserved before we do terminal damage, like putting miles on them.

Drive the frikkin' thing.

brads911sc 03-25-2010 06:13 PM

Not at all obsessed with any of the things you mention... dont own a cool collar... run standard copper bosch plugs... however, I do prefer paper air filters... and if they made one Id buy it... just prefer to buy replacements and toss in the trash when dirty...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formerly Steve Wilkinson (Post 5258155)
As far as I know, the K&N is the only one. If you maintain it carefully and oil it according to instructions, it works fine. I'm simply not losing any sleep over what micron size of particle is making it through. Life's too short.

Between ZDDP compulsives, filter wackos, Cool Collar hysterics--yeah, I've got one of those too, took it off my last airplane when I sold it--Magnacor fanatics, Swepco sissies and oh-god-do-I-have-the-wrong-sparkplugs worrywarts, we probably should just park our little dears and have them cryogenically preserved before we do terminal damage, like putting miles on them.

Drive the frikkin' thing.


Steve@Rennsport 03-25-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 5258007)
sorry to revive this thread. I have searched...

I have new PMO ITB's with rain shields and K&N filters. Does anyone make a paper filter element that is the same size and shape as the K&N?

Thanks

No paper element options for the PMO's: K&N's only.

I am working on some ITG options but those are inappropriate for most street cars.

James Brown 03-25-2010 07:52 PM

LOL!!! Thanks Steve!!!!

911pcars 03-26-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@Rennsport (Post 5258277)
No paper element options for the PMO's: K&N's only.

I am working on some ITG options but those are inappropriate for most street cars.

I suspect K&N spec'd their housing to their custom-sized filter for a reason. I performed a serious search a few years ago, and K&Ns designed these housings to fit only their filter. An alternate filter housing that uses off-the-shelf paper filters would be a popular item.

I believe these foam filters are available from GCA Industries (True Flow) in Scottsdale AZ.

True Flow Yellow Porsche Filter 1965-1973
Part Number 85212

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269634136.jpg

Sherwood

JFG 03-26-2010 02:57 PM

Anyone use itg?

911pcars 03-26-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFG (Post 5259819)
Anyone use itg?

Uhhh, yes.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269670068.jpg

This was a previous setup with Filtron stamped Al. housings and modified Amsoil foam filters:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269670822.jpg

Sherwood

rbogh901 04-28-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruiseControl (Post 4943179)
While on this filter subject can anyone provide the K&N part numbers to suit the PMO / Webers
Have difficulty in sizing from the K&N catalogue
Paul

Late to the party but here is something for those who might follow...

List Price: $61.68


E-3671 - K&N Replacement Filters, Custom Air Filter direct from K&N

James Brown 04-28-2013 08:10 PM

there is s thread on here where someone took a round fram filter and made it into a oval filter, best part they were only about 5 bucks each

ruby911 04-29-2013 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFG (Post 5259819)
Anyone use itg?

Yep, but I wish I didn't ( I already had them so I used them). I think they are fine for race applications but worry about a street appilcation as I fear they will let rain water in. I spent last weeken at Road Atlanta for The Mitty and each night I had to put a rain coat over the motor to keep the deluge out. I would prefer, and will eventually get, some rain hats with K&Ns.

mskala 04-29-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 7412683)
there is s thread on here where someone took a round fram filter and made it into a oval filter, best part they were only about 5 bucks each

Info is about half-way down the page here:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/619208-k-n-air-filters-webers-what-do-i-have-2.html

Note that the height is about 1/4" taller.

Pete000 04-29-2013 12:06 PM

One thing I noticed on the new K & N set up vs the old K & N set up is the mounting posts are not in the same location making the lids not interchangeable and the posts are pop riveted on compared to the more robust bolted on posts in the older design. On mine one of the posts just spun around making it impossible to tighten the nut.:mad:
The old NLA version is much better. IMHO.


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