Depends what you mean by "significantly". I follow current sales and see anywhere from a $10K-$20K differential based on low mileage excellent condition cars. As the miles go up and the condition goes down it washes out....I doubt that there will ever be a much greater difference than that.

However, my gut says that more slants will be kept original and treated a bit more special by their owners than regular 930's that wind up getting resold and modded for performance. That would help widen the gap potentially.....It's one of those things where condition will be the driver and when you narrow it down to the remaining excellent cars there will be enough buyers who appreciate slants to keep that differential in play.

I dont see any slants going for 20k over their counter parts. I believe even 10k is a bit of a stretch. All classics will be judged on condition as part of their pricing.

As far as which cars will be kept original and which will be modded its really just silly to say that a slant vs. a non slant will be modded more or less. Same goes for which will be treated more special by their owners. Your gut speaks with a heavy bias for your own reasons. If you take your opinion out of the statistical equation I am pretty darn sure the numbers of modded slants vs. non slants in % terms will be equal. What % of the slants out there are not factory? One done with parts from the factory is not a real factory car.

I am sure there will be a premium for the slant over the regular car in the future, but as both become more rare I believe that premium will shrink.

I am speaking as a trader with no opinion on the market’s direction just the value of the commodity as I would if I were still standing in any options pit in the world. Your perspective, and I respect your personal opinion, is skewed.

Slant conversions are not equal in value to a factory slant. Never will be. In reference to the Miami Vice Daytona, those were affected too. Talk to a Daytona spyder owner whose Daytona started life as a coupe, but because of Miami Vice now is a spyder. Many were converted. Thats a serious value hit.
Bastards are bastards which may be ok, but an abortion like the one that started this thread should be left where found in the dumpster.

P.S. Dont forget Vanilla Ice helped the slant nose image too.

I have seen that nasty ugly Vanilla Ice white slant whatever come up for sale a number of times over the years. Sad for the sucker who buys it.

Seems to me that the Daytona’s have seen a lot of ups and downs over the years, including the cutting off of the roofs that was mentioned – and all the Corvettes that were converted (as I think the original Miami Vice car was a Corvette IIRC). But I think it’s the bling of the Slantnoses that set them apart. The Daytona styling is more subdued, which should help its longevity. I think you could better equate the Slantnose to the Testarossa with the flashy side trim. I think the Testarossa’s values have been struggling. In my opinion, this is due to the style of the car being tied to an era rather than being a more classic and timeless style.

Dont forget that Sony moved up to a Testarossa in later seasons, thats not helping their value either!

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YIPPEEEE.... this is post 911!

i looked for a turbolook slant for several months. even looked at a few real turbo slopes. none passed a basic PPi. i gave up and bought a clean 85 targa from a Pelican . i am a car collector, and when my 308gtb Qv ferrari or one of my other cars sells, i will again look for a turbo look slope. the market is still based on cash in hand. bank are not loaning money. people with cash are holding on to it.

i was looking in the $20-29k cash range for a nice slopenose, and could not find a good car that was not butchered, or had stories. i detest red also, which also makes it hard for me to find cars. ( you know how hard it is to NOT buy a darn "red" Ferrari lol ! )


i too looked at the red slopenose in question in this thread, and thought it was a patchwork of parts. then there was the dealer in Florida with a car they swore was a real turbolook slant, that was not. i made sure i posted a whole thread on that car on ferrarichat in our Florida section as a warning. ( long story)

i think the slopenose cars are beautiful, and turbo or not i am hoping to get one eventually!

yeah...I'm still waiting on the ever-elusive Brown Ferrari.

I guess we will all agree the value of a "real" factory slantnose in the correct 3 years they were actually produced off the line the first time would be more than a non slantnose. The problem becomes when an earlier car has the same look. This is where the car may or may not have the same value as a real one. If it was a special wishes car or not, factory parts or not, who owned the car that sent it to special wishes, etc. 90% of people who see the car have no idea if it is real or not, it is exotic to say the least. They are definately rare, fake or not due to the number of them that survive compared to all the other regular ones. Rare equals value. If you don't like them fine, just like I don't like yellow or green cars. I bought my slantnose conversion because it was a widebody, it just happens to have another mod as slantnose. Car companies rarely produce a car under 100k that doesn't look better with some sort of change like rims, better looking rubber, seats, stereo, lighting, etc. Question is how much do you modify it? Most stock cars are just plain boring.

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funny, my first 308 was marrone dino, a rootbeer brown color. had a purple 911 also for a while too. :)

my QV is a very dark blue.


back on topic, many of the slopenose cars i looked at had issues with the lights not lifting or working properly. not sure if this is common, or it was a symptom of aftermarket conversions. the wide body with the slopenose and rear vents looks stunning to me, but i really love 70s-80s cars. pre 70 and mid 90s cars do nothing for me, and i buy what i want. i think there is definately value added for a proper documented wide body slope.

i should have bought that white one that was euro and on here or rennlist early this year. :(

Like Kidrok told me once...
 

i personally think the only 930s that will command a premium will be the model with the 930 style front end i have no idea the factory code for it though but it looks amazing

I'll go out on a limb here and say I like the look of the car. I would consider buying it at the right price because its unique...

The right price is about the same as an equivalent condition normal bodied 1980 SC. Which as you know in the US is a lot less than $22,900.00

So steer clear unless you can buy it for the right money.

I wonder what the Slant Nose fenders, lights and hardware as a kit are worth ? (Weld on turbo flares)
I bet you could get top dollar for that stuff. Lots of people out there love these cars.
That alone could pay for the standard fenders lights and paint if you wanted to standardise the car before selling it.

The one thing that can be said for this car is that it has lots of options open for the future.

a vehicle's true value is that which the prospective buyer believes it is worth. SmileWavy

back on thread...the posted vehicle looks like it's in pretty good shape. But the general consensus on this BBS is that it's probably not worth the $$$ being asked. There also seems to be a couple of questions regarding the authenticity of the statements being made by the seller. To me, that would be the biggest red flag as a buyer.

Slantnose or no slantnose...it's a 911. Some people like them a lot, some not as much.

If everybody liked the same thing, we'd all be driving Chevy Tahoe's with 22'' wheels...like they do here in Hell Paso. :rolleyes:

Wow, I didn't mean to cause any controversy....anyway the car that started this thread is a "bastard" and I have no more interest in it... lol :)

No problem. You didn't create the controversy.......it's always been there. It's just a wound that never healed, I guess! ;)

Lots of misinformation in this thread. The car is not a "Narrow Body" it has SC fenders early cars were Narrow, granted a full conversion probably should have included a wide-body kit.

The car also has a later engine out of a cab, look at the the pics, so it has had some upgrades.

Yes but is it worth $22,900.00? That's the ultimate question...

Its been stated many times the motor is out of a Carrera, there is no telling if it was out of a cab as you stated. "Narrow body" is a generic phrase not specific to any particular car. You may refer to only the early cars as "narrow body" while others will associate the phrase with non turbo bodied cars as is the case here. So where is the misinformation, or "lots" of misinfo?

Oops! I missed the one time it was mentioned in this thread that the motor was a 3.2. must have skimmed over it. As far as the lots of misinfo, I overstated my point, thanks for pointing that out, and I understand the reference to Narrow body VS Carrera and SC, don't agree with it but understand, and I'm fine with us and whoever else disagrees, again thank you for pointing that out. As far as the motor being out of a Cab...it is obvious, but has no bearing on this response.

The add for the car clearly says its a carrera motor and its been mentioned. WHat makes you think its out of a cab?

The damper on the engine console is used only on cab cars.

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Sorry I didnt even notice it, your are correct, sorry for not picking it up myself, I must be slipping.

Hi trader,

Sorry I haven't replied been on vacation in Germany and Belgium. I would agree that to a generic commodities trader my perspective seems skewed you have taken a couple of shots at me and that's fine. I'm sure I spoke too generally. However please understand that from my own experience in the USA and overseas the factory slant circle for premium cars is small but the people are out there and the cars get the premium if the condition is right. So perhaps my big error was trying to relate this group to the larger 930 owners group. Also to be clear I'm only referring to original factory production cars not conversions whether factory sanctioned or not. You of course can disagree but that doesn't change my personal experience. Cheers.

I looked at the pictures posted by the St. Louis dealer. The dealer states 1980 Carrera. (I think that 1980 cars were all SC's). It is not a Carrera.

The date of mnf is 79. The engine lid has Carrera script. (Aftermarket trim piece)

The engine at least has a 3.2 L induction system on it. (A conversion to something??) Who can tell?

I see a damper on the engine. and why did they put them in Cabrolet models? Does it tell something about the year the engine was built?

The slant nose is an aftermarket because the slant nose cars made by the factory were all 930 models with "turbo flairs". The front valence is from a Carerra.

With all that said, its pictures are pretty. It looks nice. The interior looks like a 79.

I saw a slant nose on a Carrera Coupe 20 years ago. A fellow had hit a deer and when they rebuilt the car he bought slant nose front fenders from a shop in Golden, IL. The car really looked nice. I happen to like the stock fenders with H1 or H4 headlights my self, but the slant nose cars look good too.

I would think that 4 years ago it might have brought $20,000. In todays economy, maybe $15K, maybe not. You cannot buy much of a 911 that does not need a new paint job for under $15 or $20K, and just price out a paint job.... Have a leakdown test done on the engine, and have it checked by a independent garage in St. Louis for obvious things. If you like the looks of the car, go to St Louis to see it, and take it for a test drive, and take $15K with you just in case you like it. You might drive it home.

Just know that it is a custom, and the "serial number correct crowd" will always turn their nose up at it. But the real question is, is it a nice car, was it well done, or is their a lot of bondo and paint covering up a lot of sins, does it have obvious engine or mechanical problems, and then, do YOU like it?

I'm going to redo a 74 coupe. With a 86 3.2 engine and trans. By the time it is painted and I am driving it, I will have over 20K invested. Worth it? Who knows?

You're right. Ugly ass Porsche, should be destroyed.

Someone once told me that his slant nose porsche was so rare and that it's worth over $20,000... I said I wouldn't buy it for $10k and that the reason you don't see slant noses very often is because they're hidden in people's garages for fear of embarrassment. Rather drive a 944. SmileWavy

Sellers like to throw around the word Carrera, Turbo and Spyder a lot... They'll add one upgrade (like rims or something) and try to pass it off as a Turbo even though there is no Turbocharger to be seen. Same thing with Carrerra... Or "GT3", that's a good one too.

Joe Bob, The point is this was an ad about a car for sale. They called it a Carrera. They implied the car had a factory slope nose. Neither was true. False advertising. That is what had most of us upset.

Joe Bob, What part of lying about a car that is for sale is bullcrap? I guess you can call a VW a Porsche now that VW owns Porsche if you want to, but it is not what VW calls them so, and until they do it is misleading to call a VW a Porsche when you advertise it for sale. You can call an old 356A a Carrera 4 cam if you want to, but it is a lie. If you go back and read my post from 09, you will see that I said I saw a slant nose on a Carrera Coupe 20 years ago. A fellow had hit a deer and when they rebuilt the car he bought slant nose front fenders from a shop in Golden, IL. The car really looked nice. I happen to like the stock fenders with H1 or H4 headlights my self, but the slant nose cars look good too. I also said, If you like the looks of the car, go to St Louis to see it, and take it for a test drive, and take $15K with you just in case you like it. You might drive it home.

This is true. My personal experience that I never liked the slantnose, factory or not. My wife and I went far for a test drive. We didn't bring cash, because we thought the deal won't go through the first time for this kind of car, and asking price wasn't low. We were wrong. We were in love the minute he pulled the cover off. After test drove, I couldn't not negotiate a penny. Please note that I test drive several before this one. We went back gather cash from different sources and show up at his house on the same night. Finish the deal at 2am. Why? I afraid someone else will take it before the morning.

Oh yeah. I have been very embarrass to own my slantnose :lol: