Value of a slant nose conversion?

audiman08 · 11-03-2009, 08:03 AM

I've been looking at a 1980 slant nose Carrera with 85k miles, not far from my home. Some of you may have seen it on Ebay for the last 6 months.. The slant nose look has grown on me lately. There isn't much info. on who did the conversion (just that it's all-steel). They are asking 22K for it, which seems steep to me for a non-factory job. Anyway, what's a "good deal" on a non-factory slant nose?

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1980 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA SLANTNOSE for Sale in St. Louis, Missouri

Danny_Ocean · 11-03-2009, 08:21 AM

$16k ~ $18k for that car on a good day.

Dueller · 11-03-2009, 08:33 AM

Seems spendy to me....note that if a 1980 it was an SC...not carrera. From pics it has a 84-89 3.2 motor. Not a bad thing, just seems to me this car may have been cobbled together....it certainly is nowhere near original. IMO slant nose non-factory conversions add little or no extra value except in rare cases.

Search classified section here usin "slant nose" as a search term....far nicer cars come around for much less than asking price on this one.

Just my $.02.

Hetmann · 11-03-2009, 08:37 AM

I wonder where they found the NADA value? $31,400

onboost · 11-03-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dueller

Seems spendy to me....note that if a 1980 it was an SC...not carrera. From pics it has a 84-89 3.2 motor. Not a bad thing, just seems to me this car may have been cobbled together....it certainly is nowhere near original. Just my $.02.

Would have to agree... note also that it's a "narrow body" conversion.. no Turbo flares, vents, or Turbo tail. Car is just all wrong fr that kind of money. Pass!

peon77 · 11-03-2009, 09:12 AM

You should pass. On top of all the other good reasons the 80 SC should have an 85 MPH speedo. You cant even know what the mileage is.

audiman08 · 11-03-2009, 09:50 AM

Yeah, it seemed like a hodgepodge of parts from different years that they may have paid too much for. In the 6 months or so it's been on Ebay, they refuse to lower the price. I will look for a more "correct" slant nose conversion

trader220 · 11-03-2009, 10:08 AM

Here is a little color on that car. That car was run on eBay endlessly for about 6 months about a year ago. The seller was down in Florida, they basically ran it over and over and over for a buy it now of 20 grand, and finally I believe sent it to auction. Danny Schmitt bought it and he has now run it over and over and over for about 6 more months. I would guess he bought it in the 16 to 18 range and he's been stuck with it.

Everyone is right, its a narrow body slant, something Porsche never offered and there is NO way there is an NADA value on it, so you can toss their "NADA value less discount" BS right out the window.

IMO its a mid teens car and you'd better like it a lot since its obviously pretty hard to sell it.

kepperly · kepperly's Garage

I am personally fed up with all the people that post on this board that berate the slant nose. It is the high water mark for Porsche in my opinion, and did give birth to some of Porsche's finest Race cars. If you have never driven one or just don't like them thats up to you. You probably don't have the funds to step up to something really unique anyway. Where I'm located they are probably only five in the entire state!!

Keith Epperly
87 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Dueller · 11-03-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kepperly

I am personally fed up with all the people that post on this board that berate the slant nose. It is the high water mark for Porsche in my opinion, and did give birth to some of Porsche's finest Race cars. If you have never driven one or just don't like them thats up to you. You probably don't have the funds to step up to something really unique anyway. Where I'm located they are probably only five in the entire state!!

Keith Epperly
87 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Keith...don't think anybody on this thread was slamming slant noses. OP really is fond of SN. It's just this overpriced bastardization that we were critiqueing.

trader220 · 11-03-2009, 10:22 AM

Why would someone's personal opinion on whether or not they like the slant nose look have any association on whether they can afford one? Do you think it’s very expensive to find a slant conversion around? Or that somehow makes you wealthier in some way if you own a real or conversion?

Being 45 years old and somewhat a child of the 1980's I loved the look back in the 1980’s. IMO the look didn’t age well. My opinion about the look of a slant nose has no bearing on my net worth. Grow up.

This thread was about that particular red narrow body slant nose, and NO Porsche never made a model like that for regular sale and as several people have noted it’s not particularly desirable as a Hodge Podge of different looks and parts and years. That in conjunction with the fact this car has basically been unsellable by two different sellers for something like 18 months really kills its value.

pkracer21j · 11-03-2009, 10:33 AM

Hell I think it looks pretty cool being a narrow body slant, maybe do some ruf ctr wheels and give it the right stance, it'd look menacing. I wouldn't pay more then the high teens for it. theres a nice 79 930 for sale in the classifieds for 22k.

JeremyD · JeremyD's Garage

I personally like the slant nose look. And in the 80's this was the apogee of Porsche development. [and gold BBS wheels!] Pretty sure the race cars came first (think John Paul, Kremer) - then the slant nose aftermarket conversions - then the factory figured out they were missing out on some money and started doing them.

BUT the car in question is a little bit of a hack - it's an SC - it's a narrow body. Not much love out there - but I'd love to have one.

trader220 · 11-03-2009, 11:35 AM

Well you guys are clearly wealthier than me since you like em!!!!

Rot 911 · 11-03-2009, 11:42 AM

I agree on the cobbled together. Note the chrome side glass.

JeremyD · JeremyD's Garage

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Originally Posted by kepperly

Where I'm located they are probably only five in the entire state!!

Keith Epperly
87 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Actually there are 15 - the other ten are just too embarrassed to be seen out in public...

Just kidding - just kidding

nineball · 11-03-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kepperly

You probably don't have the funds to step up to something really unique anyway.

That's a pretty bold statement on a Porsche forum.

rllevin · 11-03-2009, 01:28 PM

Whether you like the look or not, this one will be hard to sell if you ever decide to. Non-original cars do not sell to enthusiasts and that's who's on this board. I suspect the people who want "Porsche" but don't care if it's air/oil cooled are migrating to the gazillion Boxsters now available in the mid-teens. It's the kind of car I'd consider for $10-12K at most as a driver. Add up the comments--3.2, chrome side windows, Carrera lid, changed speedo with unknown mileage and no idea who did what to get it this way. Just not a good deal in this market even at half the price.
Flame away, but my $.02

McLovin · 11-03-2009, 01:49 PM

slant nose looks really weird on a narrow body car.

spuggy · 11-03-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220

This thread was about that particular red narrow body slant nose, and NO Porsche never made a model like that for regular sale

Before option M505/M506, all factory slants were Special Wishes, surely?

Peter Morgan says the first 'Sonderwunschen' flachbau was delivered from Werk 1 Zuffenhausen as early as June 1980 (somewhat earlier than he wrote in "Original 911" because he didn't know about that car then and no factory build records exist for it).

Werk 1 converted SC's and Carreras as well - both factory fresh and customer cars.

Peter says to see also Juergen Barth, in his "Porsche Specials" book from 1984 for corroboration.

There were also dealer-converted cars, using factory parts. Both before and after sale.

Not saying that particular slant is factory.