Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
rw7810's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Van,TX
Posts: 1,312
Garage
Upgrade to alum front cross member ??

I'm updating my 70T to an alum front cross member. The original steel one has two "straps", see red circle in pic. The alum unit doesn't have these. What did other pelicanites do for this ??


__________________
Robert Williams
70' 911T
Old 04-07-2010, 06:20 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Moderator
 
304065's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,569
Buy a pair of straps used and put them on. I got mine here in the classifieds, they were like $40.
__________________
'66 911 #304065 Irischgruen
‘96 993 Carrera 2 Polarsilber
'81 R65
Ex-'71 911 PCA C-Stock Club Racer #806 (Sold 5/15/13)
Ex-'88 Carrera (Sold 3/29/02)
Ex-'91 Carrera 2 Cabriolet (Sold 8/20/04)
Ex-'89 944 Turbo S (Sold 8/21/20)
Old 04-07-2010, 06:48 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Orinda, CA
Posts: 3,140
Garage
Get the later straps (as John mentions) and the later belly pan. I've been through this and it's a bummer when you think you're all done but the original belly pan won't work. As with the straps, the pan is a relatively inexpensive item.
Old 04-07-2010, 08:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
PCA7GGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dublin, CA
Posts: 6,269
304065 and JP911 are right on the mark regarding both the later straps and late belly pan - that's want I did when I went to the aluminum cross member on my '70.
__________________
Sergio
The GT Lid Whisperer
PCA 42yrs / Ex-RGruppe #197
'19 718 Cayman S (9th Porsche/1st with PDK)
'14 Subaru Forester XT (Porsche support vehicle)
Old 04-07-2010, 08:05 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
rw7810's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Van,TX
Posts: 1,312
Garage
Thanks guys for the insight.. guess i'm looking for both although I may make the straps.
__________________
Robert Williams
70' 911T
Old 04-07-2010, 08:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
AutoBahned
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 55,993
Garage
take a look at the PET before doing it - the straps are there with their p/n's as are some different washers, etc. from what you have

you save a few lbs. in doing this
Old 04-07-2010, 09:10 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Tom '74 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,356
I made some straps out of 1/4"X1" stock - not easy to bend short lengths to fit, but very do-able still. I also re-used my old belly pan by just drilling 2 new holes to attach it to the underside of the alum. cross member.

Tom
__________________
'74 911 Red Sunroof Coupe, 3.6L, etc...
'76 912 Yellow SPEC 911/911CUP
Old 04-07-2010, 10:50 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
grateful user
 
don gilbert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: collierville tn
Posts: 1,336
Garage
Grind off you old straps and use them, very little mods required and fast and easy. Will have to drill the bolt holes where it bolts to the x-member. There is no value to the old one as far as I know, I cant give my collection of them away
__________________
fully disassembled, blasted, customized and restored 75 targa with factory hard top, 993 style turbo ft fenders, steel flares, C2 bumpers and rockers, 82 3.0 sc 9.5/1 engine with PMS flywheel, 964 cams, flowed heads, ssi's short geared 915 w/lsd, polybronze, bilstein,working lambda, modified and highly tuned cis, tensioners, pop valve, backdated exhaust and heater, 2300 lbs. no bolt left untouched. 1970 911E. Nice car but needs a re-do.

Last edited by don gilbert; 04-07-2010 at 10:54 AM..
Old 04-07-2010, 10:51 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
rw7810's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Van,TX
Posts: 1,312
Garage
Thanks to all I plan to do exactly like suggested by Tom and Don
__________________
Robert Williams
70' 911T
Old 04-07-2010, 11:10 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Home of the Whopper
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Top, TN
Posts: 6,810
Garage
I did the "upgrade" on my '73, but will not do it on any of my other cars. For the money, it just isnt worth it. You save a couple of pounds in an area that doesnt really matter. It is low, toward the front middle of the car, and not rotational or unsprung.

But it is cool!

Just my opinion. Please return to the regularly scheduled program.
__________________
1968 912 coupe
1971 911E Targa rustbucket
1972 914 1.7
1987 924S
Old 04-07-2010, 11:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
mcaterino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 500
Hey, that's MY suspension!

Glad my photos were useful. I'm glad to say all those parts are now cleaned up and reinstallation is happening practically as we speak.

Mike
__________________
Michael Caterino
Clemson, SC
1970 tangerine (=Tiger Orange) 'T' targa
restoration: mk911.blogspot.com
Old 04-07-2010, 11:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
AutoBahned
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 55,993
Garage
true - not a biggie re wt. savings
(but I did it)


now is the time to powder coat all the painted parts

also a good time to put polybronze bushings on, check the fuel hose, brake stuff, rebuild pedal cluster, etc.
Old 04-07-2010, 11:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
gearhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Loverland, CO
Posts: 23,539
So you can do this without changing the A-arms? What about on a '68?
__________________
1974 914 Bumble Bee
2009 Outback XT
2008 Cayman S shop test Mule
1996 WRX V-limited 450/1000
Old 04-07-2010, 11:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
AutoBahned
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 55,993
Garage
sure - dunno re a '68
Old 04-07-2010, 12:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Carrerax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Dayton Ohio.....Americas Playground!!!
Posts: 2,209
I have a late belly pan freshly powdercoated black if you are interested.
__________________
1997 C4S stock...ish
1970 911T Restored Hot Rod....Sold
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/418411-here-my-new-old-project-lilly.html
Old 04-07-2010, 12:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Air Cooled
 
Craig_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 2,237
Garage
I'd love to see a pic or hear more about this aluminum upgraded cross member...I'm new to air-cooled Porsches and would love to know more.

Cheers,

- CraigD
__________________
'78 911 SC "Blackjack" & '76 914/4 2.0L "The Brat"
- -
'99 Honda VFR800Fi, '98 Honda SuperHawk
'88 Honda Hawk GT, '77 Honda CB750K Cafe
'69 Honda CL350
Old 04-07-2010, 01:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
rw7810's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Van,TX
Posts: 1,312
Garage
Thanks for use of the pic Mike. BK911 - I'm replacing the A-arm bushings and thought while I was inthere .... I agree, not a performance thing, but does look cooler. I will post pics as I get into it. I will be home powdercoating a-arms and air cleaner while I'm at it.
__________________
Robert Williams
70' 911T
Old 04-07-2010, 01:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Max Sluiter
 
Flieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 19,644
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_D View Post
I'd love to see a pic or hear more about this aluminum upgraded cross member...I'm new to air-cooled Porsches and would love to know more.

Cheers,

- CraigD
You've already got one. It is just a model year upgrade that came with the 911SC.
__________________
1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
Suspension by Rebel Racing, Serviced by TLG Auto, Brakes by PMB Performance
Old 04-07-2010, 03:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
grateful user
 
don gilbert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: collierville tn
Posts: 1,336
Garage
__________________
fully disassembled, blasted, customized and restored 75 targa with factory hard top, 993 style turbo ft fenders, steel flares, C2 bumpers and rockers, 82 3.0 sc 9.5/1 engine with PMS flywheel, 964 cams, flowed heads, ssi's short geared 915 w/lsd, polybronze, bilstein,working lambda, modified and highly tuned cis, tensioners, pop valve, backdated exhaust and heater, 2300 lbs. no bolt left untouched. 1970 911E. Nice car but needs a re-do.
Old 04-07-2010, 06:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Air Cooled
 
Craig_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 2,237
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flieger View Post
You've already got one. It is just a model year upgrade that came with the 911SC.
Woohoo! Wow, that was the quickest and cheapest upgrade so far! hahaha

I'm going into the garage right now to look at my aluminum cross member.

Cheers,

- CraigD

__________________
'78 911 SC "Blackjack" & '76 914/4 2.0L "The Brat"
- -
'99 Honda VFR800Fi, '98 Honda SuperHawk
'88 Honda Hawk GT, '77 Honda CB750K Cafe
'69 Honda CL350

Last edited by Craig_D; 04-07-2010 at 07:44 PM..
Old 04-07-2010, 07:32 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:23 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.