Punched hole in block, any easy fix?

[Gringo]

I have a 1965 911 that I had jacked in the air, the jack failed and it landed on a jackstand that was under the engine. It punched about a 2 inch diameter hole in the bottom of the case and drained out the oil. Is there any easy fix for me or am I doooomed?
Thanks for any and all help!!!

[jpnovak]

So very sorry to hear that. It all depends on where the hole is. If it is in the case, on a lower side that basically holds oil in you might be able to have it welded. However I would have the motor disassembled for full investigation.

You should post some pictures so that a better description and other options could be given.

btw, be sitting down when you find out how much a new early aluminum case will cost.

Best of luck.

[kenikh]

Agree with Jamie - pics good. You are in one bit of luck: it is aluminum and a much easier fix than magnesium. I have seen more than one SC/Carrera case get a weld repair for a "rod window" in the case, which is a muchmore violent injury than you are describing. Barring sheer unlucky insanity, it should be very fixable, although the engine may have to come apart. Frankly, anything aluminum can be fixed, it is simply a function of how much work it will take.

[Steve@Rennsport]

If I saw a nice sharp pic, I could tell you if its repairable or not.

Without question, the engine must come completely apart for any repairs since the case must be VERY thoroughly degreased to be welded (if its possible).

[kenikh]

If Steve says so, it is so...

[unclebilly]

You might be able to arsehole it together with 2 fender washers and some neoprene. If you can get a washer into the case (through the inspection cover) and a boltwith a neoprene gasket, you might be able to sandwich the hole with a fender washer on the outside and inside with neoprene rubber gaskets.

Just a thought.

[Gringo]

Here are some pics, it just popped a nice plug out of the bottom. What is the case made out of so I can ask a welder about fixing it. Its a 1969 911 engine.

[ben parrish]

Wow!!!

[unclebilly]

I cringe when I see that. it is weldable but not by just anyone. Where are you in Sask? I know of a shop in Regina that would have somebody suitable skilled that could TIG it for you.

[Gringo]

I am in Yorkton, just 2 hours away from Regina. I have it insured to the hilt, maybe insurance will replace instead of repair. The engine ran good, but could use a rebuild in a year or 2.

The Porsche is a 65 911 with a 1969 911 engine in it. It doesn't look like aluminum, my first guess was magnesium.

[EarlyPorsche]

I think 1969 would be a magnesium case...that probably cannot be welded. On a side note, it won't be that expensive to find another magnesium 1969 case at all.

I thought you cracked a 1965 case at first and if you had done that I would say you would have a good chance at fixing that exact hole because it is aluminum and if you showed it to a good engine shop that can do block repairs they would have probably gotten it to the point where you couldn't tell and strong.

[LakeCleElum]

Of course Steve is correct about the dismantle, BUT to avoid a very long story, I punched a hole in a motorcycle engine case one, HAD to be on the road the next day and called a welder friend. When he arrived at work, the engine was on his door step, I worked a 1/2 day, picked it up at noon and was riding out of town at 4:30....If the 1969 engine is a mag case, all bets are off.....

[docrodg]

Magnesium can be welded, requiring special rod and training. So there is a possibility you can still get this fixed, jsut have to find a welder that knows how and has right rod.

[Steve@Rennsport]

Thats a mag case,.........

Truthfully,...I would get another case, do requisite the prep work, and install all of your internals into that one.

I think you'll be money ahead since you'd need to do the same things to that case once its all apart. The crank never turns freely once the through-bolts are relaxed so the proper work is the same and the car will maintain value with a virgin case.

If it was the original case with the right numbers for that car, it would be a different story.

[Gringo]

Cool, thanks for the help guys. Still feel like puking though.

[D911SC]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

You might be able to arsehole it together ......

This made my day. Never heard this term and might start using it from now on!

[edgarcia737]

I'm sick to my stomach. It does look like a mag case. Maybe try and find a 3.0 motor. There's a big swap meet in Hershey PA on the 24th. I know it's short notice but might be a good resource for cases. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you.

[tj90]

If I had a dollar for all the times I ended up damaging something trying to improve it or maintain it......

Im thinking bent aluminum suspension components, scratched paint, ripped vinyl... It goes on and on... Sorry to hear about this, this is a mistake I would wish upon any porsche owner. Youll be able to make lemonade out of this lemon, just have to get past this bitter moment...

[Joe Bob]

Ohhhhh, that's nasty. New case time IMHO.....

[kenikh]

That's a pretty damned clean hole. Don't laugh, but I'd take a shot at epoxying that mofo back together. What'll it hurt to try...the alternative is the same.