Can the experts help me sort this car out?

[svb]

Is this a fake 930? I don't see an intercooler. Is that a 3.2L motor? Was the slant nose body a factory option in 1984? Is this a grey market car?? Any help appreciated thanks.


1984 Used Porsche 911 Carrera at Rancho Santa Fe Motors, CA, IID 5034262



03/05/1984 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Woodside, NY Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
Additional loan or lien reported
12/20/2000 14,989 New York
New York City Area
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
View what was inspected

10/07/2002 15,379 New York
New York City Area
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
View what was inspected

05/02/2003 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Huntington Station, NY Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
08/17/2004 15,557 New York
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
View what was inspected

02/19/2005 Arizona
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
03/21/2005 15,579 Arizona
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Glendale, AZ
Title #0E01005080110 Title or registration issued
New owner reported
04/29/2005 Arizona
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Glendale, AZ
Title #0E01005080110 Title or registration issued
02/28/2006 19,000 Arizona
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
02/16/2008 20,000 Arizona
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
04/28/2009 Arizona
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Peoria, AZ
Title #008D009118035 Title or registration issued
Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
05/05/2009 Arizona
Inspection Station
Maricopa County Passed emissions inspection
05/14/2009 20,615 Arizona
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Scottsdale, AZ
Title #045H009124032 Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
Title or registration issued
07/21/2009 20,828 Arizona
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rancho Santa Fe, CA
Title #00H6009202091 Title or registration issued
New owner reported
09/01/2009 22,717 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
04/12/2010 25,430 Online Listing Vehicle offered for sale
05/19/2010 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair

[IROC]

It's not being advertised as a 930, so I would hesitate to call it a "fake". My car has a "Carrera" script on the side, but it's not really a Carrera so the fact that he's got some turbo badging and a personalized plate saying "930" isn't the end of the world IMHO.

It appears to be a standard Carrera that just has a number of mods done to it. If you're serious about the car, I would look into the history of what's been done to it.

[Talewinds]

Frankly, that car has been molested too much to tell what it is/was/is intended to be.
No, it's not a 930.
Looks like a 3.2
Widebody add-ons?
Slant nose add-ons?
Nice RUF wheels though.

Are you looking at it to potentially purchase?
For starters they're asking about $26,000 too much, even if those are legitimate low miles.
The appeal of low mile cars is, for one thing, that they're usually in some semblance of a stock, untouched condition.
That car's been sodomized so badly it completely negates the (purported) low miles.

[svb]

Originally Posted by Talewinds

Frankly, that car has been molested too much to tell what it is/was/is intended to be.
No, it's not a 930.
Looks like a 3.2
Widebody add-ons?
Slant nose add-ons?
Nice RUF wheels though.

Are you looking at it to potentially purchase?
For starters they're asking about $26,000 too much, even if those are legitimate low miles.
The appeal of low mile cars is, for one thing, that they're usually in some semblance of a stock, untouched condition.
That car's been sodomized so badly it completely negates the (purported) low miles.

Agreed. I'm looking for a 930, so this is not a consideration. It is a curious car though. Looks like it has a borla dual out exhaust. It's even got a 930's price tag as you pointed out. What a shame.

[Gemballa2006]

Definitely not a turbo, it is a 3.2 and it is 5spd, I believe the turbos were 4 speed at that time, could be wrong though, but it is not a turbo

[techweenie]

I know of a '92 Turbo coupe that will be coming up for sale soon, PM me if you're interested.

[Rot 911]

It is easy to see that the engine is a stock 3.2. Not a turbo. On the other hand, someone has dropped some serious money into that car.

[JeremyD]

Carrera - 3.2 =

No 505 code - so slant nose is an add on

No M491 code so flares are add on

Not a Euro - US Spec

Clifford Alarm - can be problematic

Ruf wheels are money

options that came with the car:

395 Light metal wheels - forged (I'm guessing long gone)
409 Sport seats left and right leather
419 Rear luggage compartment instead of rear seats
454 Automatic speed control

[msterling]

Obviously owned by someone who wished that they owned a slantnose 930. They spent a load of cash to upgrade cosmetically. Turbo badges and vanity plate on a non-turbo car are just plain pathetic. I would be wary that someone like that would tend to neglect any maintenance not related to cosmetics.

It probably WAS a nice cab and I DO like the wheels.

Keep lookin'. Now is a great time to buy a real 930.

[Winter]

Originally Posted by msterling

Turbo badges and vanity plate on a non-turbo car are just plain pathetic.

I think you're being waaaay too nice!

"pathetic"? I'd hate to see the heat that some of the real flamethrowers on this forum could bring on the poor owner of this "930" LOL!

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Tom '75 targa

[svb]

This car invokes the line in the movie "Wall Street" when the stock broker in the bar says "The guy is Rambo, he's Rambo, he's got himself a Porsche Turbo Cabriolet...about 75 thou...." This car was registered in NY, NY back in the mid 80's...wonder if it was that stockbroker?

Those who can't remember that line better go watch the movie again before the sequel "Money Never Sleeps"

[kidrock]

Nas "T" 930

Remove all the "turbo" and "930" stuff, and it could still be fairly well sorted. Not too bad, all in all...at least it hasn't shown up on Playa's Hit List.