Is that photo taken in Seaside?

Has anyone ever backdated further - i.e. instead of making an SC/Carrera into an RS, making it into a true narrow bodied car - like an R or an S?

Hers's mine. From a 75 to a hot rod. ...Not trying to be anything specific, just a tribute to the old style.

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Craig ... love that last photo. :)

Lookout! Magnus is on your tail!

Great thread! Love the backdated cars. I've been looking for my first 911 and really wanting a long hood hot rod.

Chris

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Am I correct in thinking that any backdate to create the "longhood" look requires cutting off and replacing the front bulkhead? I'm talking specfically of backdating a '84-'89 Carrera or a 964. No way around this...correct?

no, you are not correct. For the front, it's entirely bodywork. There are hoods offered that would allow for a 100% reversible backdate. For the front, at least.

Getty Design now sells a "longhood conversion" that has a latch mounting further up the hood to allow it to fit a 74 911S-964 without cutting off the nose. They also have fiberglass early bumpers that bolt on. I've seen one done, and it doesn't look bad until you open the hood. It's also quite a reach under to get to the latch.

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Getty 74'-93' Long Conversion Hood

$569.00 - Core Mat
$709.00 - Foam Core
$959.00 - Carbon Fiber

Fits 911 - 1974 thru 1993. This is a special long hood with short hood liner. For converting 74' or later chassis to a 73' Carrera RS look without having to change the front tub panel.

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I really like Getty products, and this will save a lot of $$$ at the body shop, but after looking at and comparing it to one done right, I decided it was worth the $$$ to go all the way.

I doubt Magnus could catch Craig. SERIOUSLY doubt it...

Well that's great news...it seems like every thread I read on creating longhoods used substantial fabrication work up front. Good to know that's not required.

I would not say that substantial fabrication work is not required.

Be aware that if you use the fiberglass long hood with the later latch position, you will be chasing the usual fiberglass distortion issues on a very low-crown surface. You will have to forego hood shocks. You will have to cope with the fiberglass "settling" over time.

Having done a backdate once with a fiberglass long hood, I would not do it again. Fiberglass and low crown panels are not a good combination. Disclaimer: I've not tried a carbon fiber version, and that could be a lot better -- if it's 'real' carbon fiber.

Other changes to the chassis to do the backdate are quite minor. You can do them yourself in a weekend.

Even a "real" carbon fiber hood has the same issue. I used a real CF hood with extra reinforcement to avoid hood pins. It's much stronger than a typical fiberglass one, but not that light. Plus, only a few months past the painting it already shows the weave across the surface.

I fully plan to have Esposito paint and install a steel hood in the upcoming winter.

1975 Euro 911S is now a 2.8 twin plugged carbed homage to the 1969 TdF winning R of Guy Larrousse and Laurent Gelin.
10 years of effort but worth it I think.

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I'm wondering why so many people take the time/money to do a beautiful complete backdate but than use the wrong mirrors and wheels. It makes a very realistic looking long hood look like, well a backdate. IMO.:confused:

from my position...

Couldn't afford those 7 inch by 15 fuchs for the back, don't like silver and black.

Like Durrants but not the fact I can't see behind so made a new mount.

You might also notice the "wrong" pedal box, cage, headlamp covers, door handles, airfilters , dizzy, arch flares, wheelbase... etc etc .....;);)

They are "correct" NSU front lamps though....they were cheap:D:D

Andy

Real CF with polyester resin, or Epoxy?

I suspect FG or CF makes no difference if polyester is being used. It's the polyester that is shrinking causing issues.

haasad, agreed on the worth it part. thats one bad ass looking car/interior. is there a build thread on ur car anywhere? wow. love it.

Yes, our sterling marketing people are calling everything 'carbon fiber' but what I was referring to is actual Autoclaved CF pieces of aerospace quality. In the aftermarket, this is known as "dry carbon fiber" and is a whole world away from the stuff often marketed to the... ah, er "JDM" boys.

What do you mean by "wrong"??? There is no "wrong" on these cars. Very few backdates are in an attempt to clone of copy something specifically. Most are simply hot rods or drivable tributes to the cars they love. Once you start worrying about it being EXACTLY like something its not, or worse, try to fool somebody....then it's just a fake.

It's bang for buck. You can do a basic backdate without painting cowl, roof, doors, quarters or engine lid.

Add the mirrors, and with a lot of cars, you're filling extra mirror holes and repainting the doors.

Add going to bright trim, and it's easily +4 figures.

The biggest visual impact is with fenders/hood and bumpers. There's a diminishing return past that point.

I "backdated" an '85 Carrera a couple years back for under $5000. Had I done mirrors and trim, I'd have been happier with the result, but not $3000 happier.

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It looks great!

Thanks!

I'll be the first to admit the mirrors were wrong, but then fixing them, I'd want to go to bright trim, chrome door handles, swap the plastic engine grille for the metal one, etc., etc. (and some will argue I should have gone to 15" Fuchs instead of 16").

It is, as they say, a slippery slope.

One of the best I've ever seen was a 964 done very convincingly as a long hood. You do NOT want to know what that cost!

I think you can contact the person who owns this blog, in the bottom left there is a ( + ) and ( / ) signs when you open the site.

DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker • View topic - 75 S to R Homage

Here you go ..Thanks for your comments SmileWavy

To me, this is the ultimate, impossible to beat!

God save me from the Concour Weenie crowd. I have my own style and just drive.....I have a mismatched fender, electric windows and mirrors.....single exhaust as it runs better with back pressure.

Run what ya like....

I'm sorry, the thread wasnt called "show us your "run what ya like" cars, it was called "Show us your backdate", so I'm merely pointing out the "minor" things I noticed that kept a few cars from looking like an authentic early model, in order to stay consistant with the theme of this thread. It would be like someone updating a mid year to a 993 while keeping the flag mirrors Fuchs and old style reflector. The cars in this thread all look awesome and I was just pointing out an observation, but Craig made a valid point on the cost. (whose car looks fantastic BTW) SmileWavy

+1

Just a reminder: not all us Weenies are Concours Weenies!

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Hey I resemble that.....
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The white RSR tribute with blue graphics is parked at the Adelaide Inn in Paso Robles on the second morning of the Targa CA 2013.

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This might be the most dangerous thread on Pelican.

Jim, Awesome mint green RSC.

Here's mine. 88 Carrera with a 3.3 intercooled turbo engine and G50 trans.

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I agree in every way.

Well it was a "Backdate" thread, not a, show your custom "run what ya like thread" So I was just trying to stay true to what the OP was looking for. :p
Maybe a new thread would be in order..."Show your custom 911"

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