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NoLift911 06-22-2010 03:01 AM

Source for ball joint socket tool? (Installation)
 
Does anyone know of another source other than the host for this? They don't have them anymore.

Thanks -

IROC 06-22-2010 03:22 AM

Maybe Paragon?

Paragon Products - Porsche Parts & Accessories - Koni, Sparco, Pagid, K&N, Bilstein, Weltmeister

tobluforu 06-22-2010 03:24 AM

Your local hardware store and it's called a pipe wrench. Seriously, that's how I took mine off, and I then hand screwed them back on and used the pipe wrench to snug it tight.

NoLift911 06-22-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tobluforu (Post 5416832)
Your local hardware store and it's called a pipe wrench. Seriously, that's how I took mine off, and I then hand screwed them back on and used the pipe wrench to snug it tight.

You have a pipe wrench that gives torque values? ;)

tobluforu 06-22-2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nolift911 (Post 5416853)
You have a pipe wrench that gives torque values? ;)

No but I have a big strong arm, and I have that socket and it's a piece of crap.

Rot 911 06-22-2010 05:16 AM

Take your new ball joint to an auto parts store and look for the socket to remove a Ford or Dodge 4 wheel drive axle nut. There are several sizes, but one of them will fit the 911 ball joint castellated nut. They sell between $8 and $15.

NoLift911 06-22-2010 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tobluforu (Post 5416900)
No but I have a big strong arm, and I have that socket and it's a piece of crap.

Oh, well why didn't you say so? :confused:

I used the "kinda fits" 4X4 socket to get the nut off with an air gun - got them off

Now I need the one for "installation only" that pelican sold...it's out there

Where is it?

vash 06-22-2010 05:58 AM

no lift..my dodge hub tool fit perfectly! i used it for the removal and installation. it never slipped. it was around $10.

KTL 06-22-2010 07:23 AM

Agreed- check out the misc. monster sockets at local parts stores. Performance Tool is the name brand I recall at Advance Auto.

If you must have the real deal socket (it does work pretty well, as a handful of locals have borrowed mine and were very thankful) try Skyway Tools. Nice people there. Prices aren't drop dead great (kinda pricey IMO) but they're quick to ship and nice people.

Automotive Tools - Porsche

brads911sc 06-22-2010 07:31 AM

I have two. One is still in original pelican package. Will sell it to you if you want...

NoLift911 06-22-2010 10:11 AM

I will take it - pm me with cost

tobluforu 06-22-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nolift911 (Post 5417509)
I will take it - pm me with cost

I can sell you a pipe wrench if you like, cheap!;)

gtc 06-22-2010 01:27 PM

These people sell them:
Sir Tools P210 Ball Joint Pin Wrench Socket

LUFTMAN 06-22-2010 03:09 PM

I have porsche factory socket it is the best tool for the job

Jeff Burger 06-22-2010 04:41 PM

Better than this one ?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1277252758.jpg

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SCOTITUDE 06-22-2010 04:56 PM

quickest loss of 50 bucks i ever spent. socket is a POS. buy the cheap ones.

wswilburn 06-22-2010 05:16 PM

The tool is not made of hardened steel. One slip and the points can be rounded. I use a floor jack to press it against the nut and have had success every time.

D911SC 06-22-2010 05:40 PM

Apparently our host is getting more of these mid July. I know this because I am looking to buy one and asked the question.

I have heard the floor jack method is a must.

vash 06-22-2010 06:04 PM

the Pcar one is robbery. it is weak. the dodge tool spanks it.

rusnak 06-22-2010 06:11 PM

The Sir Tools socket is like that remote controlled car you had to have as a kid, or the Red Rider BB gun. You think it's the shiznit, but then it breaks right away and you become a bit more jaded. Use the pipe wrench, torque that puppy down and only admit to doing so around friends. I admit I rounded off my ST socket and wish I had that hundy back.

brads911sc 06-22-2010 07:01 PM

i used my pelican sourced tool twice with no issues. the proper tool, if used correctly, is usually advised.

Walt Fricke 06-22-2010 09:57 PM

Jeff, I knew you had some smarts stored away up there.

I made my socket as you did, by grinding an inexpensive large socket. And I dreamed of finding a piece of tubing which was just the right size to slip over it and be tack welded in place and prevent it from ever coming off the round "nut."

And here a hose clamp does it! Hand slap to forehead.

My trip to Tool King some years back did not turn up an off the shelf product for other vehicles which fit. If the one for the Dodge is the right pattern, probably a better deal than the home brew.

But any of these tools can be improved with Jeff's hose clamp.

Walt

KCinBR 06-23-2010 02:03 AM

This image is from another site about replacing 911 ball joints, very good article. I posted it here because I had the same question about the tool. The entire article cam be found here:

Porsche 911 Ball Joint Replacement | RVB Precision - Welcome to the world of ultra precision

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1277287284.jpg

Jeff Burger 06-23-2010 03:13 AM

KCinbar - - great post - thanks for documenting the part size/name

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt Fricke (Post 5418704)
Jeff, I knew you had some smarts stored away up there.
Walt

Walt,
yeah but ufortunately most the time it t stays hidden way up there.
I made that tool way back when before Al gore invented the internet and availability for special tools was pretty much limited to a Porsche dealer . I can't remember if I was too cheap or needed it in a hurry. Not being a professional mechanic I just can't seem to justify spending money on the proper tool when It has served me well. Besides it gives my friends something to laugh about.

RD911T 03-17-2014 01:49 PM

I dug up this old thread today
 
And while I was calling the local Autozone to see if they had the alternate tool, I found it on Amazon Prime for $12, free 2 day shipping with Prime membership.

Amazon.com: Buying Choices: OEM 25965 1/2-Inch 66.5 by 80mm Front Wheel Bearing Locknut Socket

For $12 I'll try it with my 1/2 Torque Wrench and see how tight my pipe wrench got the ring nuts on my ball joints.

Nostril Cheese 03-17-2014 01:55 PM

I cut the old ones then use the Dodge hub tool to put them in. The stock tool sucks.

81SC 03-17-2014 04:22 PM

Hey RD911T,

Thanks for posting the Amazon link, even with $13 shipping to Australia this is a bargain for us guys downunder:cool:. Order placed already.

This is why Pelican is such a great resource for these type of issues.

Regards
Brett

RD911T 03-17-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Hey RD911T,<br>
<br>
Thanks for posting the Amazon link, even with $13 shipping to Australia this is a bargain for us guys downunder<img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg">. Order placed already.<br>
<br>
This is why Pelican is such a great resource for these type of issues.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Brett
I've been here reading and learning for 4 years or so and It feels good to contribute. Hope it works well. I'll get mine Weds and report back.

81SC 03-27-2014 08:12 PM

Socket arrived from the States today. Pelican rocks:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395979751.jpg

RD911T 03-27-2014 08:26 PM

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Socket arrived from the States today. Pelican rocks<img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg"><br>
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<img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads22/BALL+JOINT+SOCKET1395979751.jpg" border="0" alt="">
Ha, I got mine yesterday. FedEx lost the first one. But the tool worked great !

markivtruck 03-27-2014 08:38 PM

buy the factory tool from porsche was $75.00 years ago works fine to torque ball joint nut to 250 nm or 25 kpm pipe wrench tears nuts up

pksystems 03-27-2014 09:56 PM

Air hammer to get old nut off.

Cut notches into the one you just removed that match your new nut. I believe I welded some tubing over it to give it an outer sleeve to help hold the new nut.

Weld some scrap steel on to give you 1/2" socket hole.

It deformed a bit, but I got both ball joints torqued to proper values.

The difficult part was holding the A-arm while torquing :)

rusnak 03-27-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markivtruck (Post 7985016)
buy the factory tool from porsche was $75.00 years ago works fine to torque ball joint nut to 250 nm or 25 kpm pipe wrench tears nuts up

No it does not.

The balljoint nut is a threaded pipe.

bpu699 03-28-2014 05:59 AM

Just did this last weekend. Bought 6 inches of galvanized pipe the same diameter as the nut, and notched it to match the nut. Then used a pipe wrench to get it off.

The autoparts stores don't carry the right size tool, and definitely not metric.

If I had it to do all over, I would have just gotten the right tool off ebay from OEM for $15 or so... I just wanted to finish up that weekend.

Bo

RD911T 03-28-2014 11:07 AM

I torqued mine with the $12.57 tool from Amazon. Free delivery with Prime membership. It worked like a charm. I will say that I had tightened the ring nuts with a pipe wrench first and when I used the tool I got in the mail, one side was tight enough and the other was close (it only turned slightly).

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azhodge 11-24-2014 05:40 PM

I got one of these 66.5 x 80.0 sockets. seems way loose on the nut. catellated nut seems like a 52.0. But if it work for you then I will give it a try. I would feel better if that big sloppy gap was not around the edge and it was snug. Four teeth also not fully engaged.see pichttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416883188.jpg

Reiver 11-24-2014 06:17 PM

I used the tool purchased here with an air wrench off/on no problem. It didn't round out at all.
If anyone needs it let me know...I doubt I'll ever use it again since the B jnts seem to last 20-30 years.

sugarwood 11-26-2014 09:02 AM

Can someone explain what is happening in this photo?
Is the torque wrench facing up or down?
It looks like you're screwing in the jack plate!


Quote:

Originally Posted by RD911T (Post 7986117)


Quinlan 11-26-2014 10:04 AM

My guess is that he put a loose socket under the head of the torque wrench so that the torque wrench didn't bind against the jack

RD911T 11-26-2014 11:11 AM

Quinlan has it right. The torque wrench is connected to the ball joint socket on top of it. The socket underneath is to reduce friction against the jack plate. The jack puts pressure upwards to keep the ball joint socket from slipping off. This was a one foot in the wheel well and two handed torque job. I didn't want the wrench slipping because the stopping point would have been my nuts!


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