What's up with this interior issue?

[d.a.autry]

Okay. . .I haven't snapped pics of mine yet, but I think I can use a pic I found on here to demonstrate.

Look at the circled area on the pic below showing where door panel meets dash. Now, in this pick the lines where they meet are nice, straight and pretty much appear to be parallel. However my door panel to dash does not meet up straight and parallel like this. It's more like the little red V I drew on this pick with the bottom edge almost touching.

Any clue as to what could cause this??. . .different year dash or panels maybe??

[tcar]

Without a PIC, I'd guess warped dash.

[d.a.autry]

The dash 'looks' good, no obvious signs of warpage. . .I was wondering that too myself.

I'll see if I can get a quick phone pic in just a few moments.

[rusnak]

leather interior.

[ruby911]

Mine does that too and I believe it is because I have an '84 with a later model leather dash.

[d.a.autry]

No. . . I had some naugas give up their hydes for my interior

Here's a few pics, the passenger side appears worse in this, but they're both about equal.

That's kind of what I was thinking Ruby. . .the colors between the dash and door panels look just a hint off too.

[ruby911]

yep, that is exactly what mine looks like. I do my best to ignore it. :-)

[Packy]

The dash also has clips that hold it down from the underside. If these clips are not secured properly or if they broke this could mean the dash isn't seated properly. Can you lift up on the dash at all? These buttons are kind of a PITA to fix and there are a lot of fasteners holding the dash in place.

do the doors close properly with a consistent reveal around the edges?

[d.a.autry]

Yeah. . . has to be interior mismatch then. Ignorance IS bliss!

I don't know the history of this car and it's been a little disconcerting. I checked the tub well for signs of it being clipped and didn't see any (and I wouldn't think that even the worst hack would have done that bad of a job on a clip either)

Just wanted to confirm my thoughts that it was a mismatch. I would almost assume it's a different year dash as this is in a '76 chassis and has no cracks.

[d.a.autry]

Originally Posted by Packy

The dash also has clips that hold it down from the underside. If these clips are not secured properly or if they broke this could mean the dash isn't seated properly. Can you lift up on the dash at all? These buttons are kind of a PITA to fix and there are a lot of fasteners holding the dash in place.

do the doors close properly with a consistent reveal around the edges?

Nah. . .pretty darn solid. . I thought of that too, but when you look at the angles and what it would take to bring them into alignment you realize that in doing so the front of the dash (at the windshield) would sit up over an inch above the windshield seal, and the edge of the dash would be pointing more downward than normal. I thought of that, of heat warpage, of course had nightmares about a bad hack job on a clip car. . . It's 99.9% an interior mismatch here. (There's NO place like home. . there's NO place like home) LOL

The doors do close well, however they seem out of alignment at the bottom on both L and R. It's as if the bottom hinge needs to be adjusted inwards towards the center of the car where it attaches to the body, however there is no adjustment that I can find there (unless that particular adjustment is internal on the door itself with shims). . . Another weird thing is a bit of leakage on both sides. On the drivers side it will leave a few drops near the headlight switch. . but this appears to be coming in through a bad windshild seal. As best as I can tell it seems to be coming from behind the dash, and not from around the door seal.

[Packy]

my cork dash on my 79 911 didn't look like that. FYI

[d.a.autry]

I'll have to take better note of other dashes on similar year models at the next event I attend.

Also. . on my door issue. I'm wondering actually if front fenders could be out of alignment at the bottom.

Checking things like that are on my list of 'down the road' projects.

[d.a.autry]

Originally Posted by tcar

Without a PIC, . . . .

And yeah T. . .I PIC'ED up on that 'edited a pick' thing. . . LOL


Leaf my spelin aloan!

[Mitch Leland]

If the leather isn't warped around the A/C vent and and W/S vent holes then it's not warped leather because it would shrink away from there first. Also it's not the plastic snaps since the front of the dash is anchored by 6mm studs at both ends of the dash.

I'm wondering if the dash front were rotated and it could be re-installed so the ends would be aligned. I would talk to Tony Garcia at AutoBahn Interiors, San Diego, I'm sure he could tell you where to start.

I agree having to look at that would make me crazy, if it were black it would be so noticeable. Plus Cork interiors are my favorite anyway.

[RWebb]

take an angle grinder to the leather

[d.a.autry]

I'm figerin' on the sawzall. Why clog up my disk??

[nineball]

my 83, with the original dash and doors, is exactly the same.

[dshepp806]

I see the same on my '89.

Doyle

[d.a.autry]

Not wishing ill on the others that have this issue too. . . .but I'm sure glad to know that it's not just me. Like I said, it's been a little unnerving up until now.

I might just give Tony G. a call next week and see if he knows the reason for this.

@ Doyle. . . LOL. . . . tubes!!

Believe it or not, I had a prof. at S. Tech that swore you could get just as good of a reproduction on sound with linear op-amps. . . . until I wasted him with a pair of silver sevens by ear and lab results . .(I know. . .Bob sucks). . . Then I proceeded to use an old SAE to show that even older solid state amps would waste him.

Strange, even though I aced all tests in his class, he wouldn't give me above a B on any of my lab work. . . wonder why??

[dshepp806]

Tubes have they're own sound,..although one must have the professional ears to appreciate /differentiate it. Instrument always proved my points. I will say that they're getting better on the SS stuff,..at least the high end hardware, where there exists no compromises.

I'm a big fan of "even-order" harmonics,..and cathode-bias on guitar amps.

Best to you and yours',

Doyle