2010 GT3 vs. 2007 GT3RS

[c4srojo]

I am looking for opinions regarding a 2007 GT3RS vs. a 2010 GT3. This will be used primarily as a track car (DE's only) but I would keep it street legal. It looks like they are about equal in price. I would appreciate any insights as to which way to go.

Thanks!

[artplumber]

More horses in the new car. More focused in the RS. I can't believe they would be the same cost?

[grudk]

If you are going to use it primarily for track, I would think the RS is the easy winner... more fully depreciated and will hold value better. Keep it bone stock

[Matt Monson]

Here's something you'll want to consider and budget for with either car:

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[hoyabear]

- RS is better-looking and more of a focused track car
- If you can get it for the right price, you have the benefit of avoiding a big hit from depreciation
- It will likely be worth more down the road (good points grudk)
- 2010 does have a much-improved engine, but the RS is no slouch

All in all, seems to me the RS is a pretty clear winner.

[GrantG]

New 2010 GT3 has better brakes, handling, aero and engine - seems like the clear winner to me.

[c4srojo]

Wow. That is an eye opener isn't it? This is the first time I have uncovered this issue. I appreciate it alot.

[artplumber]

Originally Posted by GrantG

New 2010 GT3 has better brakes, handling, aero and engine - seems like the clear winner to me.

The engine is new, with more horses. That may or may not be an advantage as we have yet to see what probs may develop with that engine. It also gets better mileage - if that matters. There are always those guys who punch out the old engine to 3.9L and 500hp.

Aero is a mixed bag. More downforce, but more drag as usual & slower top speeds (witness GT3 times at the 'ring)

I'm not aware that PCCB's have changed.

The track width changed on one axle, but I don't know that there is a big difference in handling - I doubt whether this would be apparent on track.

I think that the depreciation hit would be bigger on the new car. Hence, my question about really the same price?

YMMV

PS, buy a higher mileage old GT3 & have those guys punch it out to 3.9L, put an RS flywheel on it, pull out some of the NVH stuff and you're set.

[GrantG]

Originally Posted by artplumber

The engine is new, with more horses. That may or may not be an advantage as we have yet to see what probs may develop with that engine...

I'm not aware that PCCB's have changed.

The engine is the same basic unit with slightly larger pistons - reliabililty should be fine as they run that motor to 4.0L and 9,500rpm in some racing guises.

The PCCB's are not different, but I would strongly advise against them for DE use (incredibly expensive to replace and they will need to be replaced with track use). New iron brakes are significantly improved on 2010.

[Packy]

I thought one of the biggest complaints RS owners had was it was too close to the non-rs as far as performance. I read that in Excellence somewhere. IF that is true, get the 2010 direct injection model (I think they are doing that with the 2010) with the new motor. Plus, these motors only last 100k before rebuilds, I would take the 2010.

[GrantG]

Originally Posted by Packy

I thought one of the biggest complaints RS owners had was it was too close to the non-rs as far as performance. I read that in Excellence somewhere. IF that is true, get the 2010 direct injection model (I think they are doing that with the 2010) with the new motor. Plus, these motors only last 100k before rebuilds, I would take the 2010.

The 2010 GT3 3.8L is not Direct Injection - it is a based on 964 block (from late 80's) with true racing dry sump (unlike the DFI motors) and is probably the finest production 911 motor ever made by Porsche.

[Steve W]

They're all track capable street cars, from the 996 GT3 to the current RS. Very little difference between the 997.1 '07 GT3 and '07RS except for 44mm wider rear body work, lack of a sunroof, and a LWF. For track work and DEs, the standard '07 or '08 GT3 is a much better bargain. Between these and the 997.2 2010s, again there's very little difference except a 0.2L increase (20HP) in displacement and some suspension revisions to reduce the excess understeer purposely dialed in on the .1 versions. The same could be done on the .1 versions by fitting the larger 2010 GT3/GT2 rear sway bar. The difference in track and AX performance will come down to tires and driver skill. As for price differences, the 2010s are still hovering in the $120k range while the '07RS in the sub $100k range, and the non RS in the low 80s to upper 70s.

[lateapex911]

Man I'd love to have such a tough decision!

I love the look of the 07, and while I see the point about the 100K mile engine rebuild, who is going to drive such a car that many miles? Sure, A FEW guys do, but the OP said this was mostly a track car.

Worrisome comments about the PCCB brakes...how long do they last? (I know, tough to say with track work. Getting the last second out of my race car so I was in track record range eats my brakes up at twice the rate)

All in all, those are huge depreciation savings. And I think the 07 era RS will be a car to have in the future.....but again, I'm so far from having such a problem I'm far from an expert!

[layzee]

Looking at history, depreciation has been kind to anything wearing an RS moniker. Financially I think the 07 is the clear winner.

Nice problem to have indeed.

[KCTarga3.2]

Get an 07 GT3RS and call Sharkwerks for the $25k conversion to a 3.9

Excellence :: Hello, 8800 RPM : 2010 GT3 3.8 vs. GT3 RS 3.9

[naparsei]

If you think you will truly notice the performance difference between the cars, buy the newer one. I tend to doubt I would (I own and track an '08 GT3). I think the 996 GT3s are a steal (although not relevant to this thread, really).

[TerryBPP]

I have a 2008 GT3RS coming in this week if you are interested. 239-823-4250

-Terry