Zuffenhaus Fuchs.....what is the current wait time for delivery on these?
 

Read thru the old Jeff Alton Fuchs post, and someone supposedly ordered a set in Jan 2010 and as of Oct, still hadn't received them.

Are super long delivery times still an issue with these wheels?

Would really like to get a set of the RSR finish 17x9 and 17x11 Zuffenhaus Fuchs, but 1 year plus delivery schedules still don't sit too well with me.

As others have noted, there really is no other choice for a wheel like this.

Curious what others think and what recent experiences are....

Thx

skinnerd,
That would be me-still waiting.

By no other choice, do you mean 17" and forged? I guess the 16" are still available from Porsche right? I wonder if the company that makes the 16's is the same one that makes the new 19's?

Yes 17", forged, with the right proportions and rim profile.

Seems like very few folks are purchasing these wheels these days?

Perhaps the long and unknown delivery schedule has spooked most people from making the plunge?

Anyone else have a take on this?

The wheels on e.g. the Sportclassic are Fuchs lookalikes made by Porsche. They are cast!
Fuchs does make new style Fuchs wheels too.(OTTO FUCHS Felgen: Home)
Why Porsche does not use those, I do not know. IMO it would be nice to have genuine Fuchs on Porsche again. Guess I'm a bit nostalgic.

New Fuchs made by Fuchs....

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OP, sorry, didn't mean to sidetrack your post. One year deliverytime is way too much, but they are very nice wheels if you want to go 17'.

I have also been looking into buying Zuffenhaus RSR style 17x9 and 17x11.
Wow did not know of this long time for delivery :-(

Maybe go for Lindsey then even though I like zuffenhaus more....

In the next week, I will give Zuffenhaus a ring to see what is up with these wheels.
Let everyone know what I find out.
I would much prefer the 3 pc Zuffenhaus to the Lindsey variety.


The new Fuchs don't look right at all....and don't have the correct offsets for us early car guys.

Anyone else order Zuffenhaus Fuchs and still waiting delivery?

skinnerd

I was about to order the Zuffenhaus Fuchs copies last January. When I was told that I would have to pay the entire $3500 up front and that the wait would be twelve to sixteen weeks, I decided against them. A week or two ago I discovered from another Pelican that he ordered and paid for the wheels in January and was still waiting. In addition to very, very poor delivery times, some people have also experienced a couple of manufacturing problems with the wheels. If your do a search you'll see what I'm talking about.

In fairness to Zuffenhaus, the wheels do look great, and they are very light. But there are lots of terrific wheels out there--new and used. I ultimately decided to go with HRE.
Tom

Taking payment up front and then not delivering product is a major sign of a company in distress. I won't risk doing business with them, for any product.

Order from Zuffenhaus
 

Hello Doug;
I ordered four new wheels from Zuf in July and haven't received the wheels nor heard a word from them.
But I'm optimistic! Maybe they'll show up at my doorstep tomorrow and I'll forget about the wait. Hope that helps with your decision.

Porschenut:
I don't think that Zuffenhaus is a company in trouble. They have a superb reputation. And they are doing excellent work at the moment for at least one Pelican on the Turbo forum. I think that this Fuchs fiasco is the exception, and chances are they probably regret ever having gotten into this awkward position. But I certainly agree with you that it casts a worrisome shadow over an otherwise fine company. Just my opinion.

I hope that the Zuff folks can get caught up at some point. But I know the wheels take a long time to produce. As I recall each center takes 8-10 hours on a mill to machine, so that's one set of centers a week or thereabouts. And the outer rimshells are unique to this wheel too, and take far longer to roll that a traditional Kodiak or Fikse lip would. These are truly very custom wheels.

As the person who got the very first set of customer wheels from Jeff Alton way back and started the "post them as you get them" thread, let me say the wheels are fantastic. They've now seen 2 years of track use and are still perfectly round and true. They're lighter than just about anything else out there too. And they're a far more accurate representation of the factory Fuchs than the ones that cut the centers out and weld into 17" rim pieces. These just look right.

How strongly do I feel about these wheels? Not long after I'd received my first set of wheels I had Jeff machine me another set of centers. Theyve been collecting dust for far too long in my basement so it's time to have rim shells made so I can complete my second set of these wheels. (actually only 3 of them are int he basement, the 4th resides under the coffee table in my living room as a conversation piece- a red powdercoated Fuchs wheel center) The only question is should I make them 17's or 18's?

I certainly haven't given up on Zuffenhaus yet....despite the delays.

I spend a lot of time out of the country, so an extended wait isn't necessarily a deal breaker for me.

Another + for the Zuff wheels. Mine were in the first batch too, and I've no issues.

I only know of one manufacturing issue at the onset, and that was rectified very swiftly. It had nothing to do with the rim halves or centers.

I love mine. Hopefully one of the Zuffenhaus folks can chime in on the OP's question.

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Any updates?

..........yeah....the above statement is no longer true.......and btw I finished my own car.

Reaper: Not sure by what you meant? I get the part that you finished your car by yourself- what is no longer true?

Sorry forgot to bold the line "and they are doing excellent work at the moment for at least one Pelican on the Turbo forum".

Sometimes fate or destiny leads one in a different direction.

That is what happened to me....

I was able to purchase a nice pair of real 9x15 Fuchs off of eBay recently.
A week later purchased a very good pair of real 8x15 Fuchs again on eBay.
I quick trip to my locate P shop (Rothsport) and I see they have a new set of Michelin TB15's for sale that will fit the RSR 9x15 and 11x15 Fuchs.
Now all I have to do is get one more pair of 8x15 Fuchs and send all four down to Harvey Weidmann to be transformed into a pair of 11x15's.
Harvey will also likely apply an RSR "look" finish to all the wheels.

I will end up with the old school look for my 73 RSR looking hot rod.

Guess I was tired of waiting for someone to chime in with some good news on delivery schedules for the Zuffenhaus wheels.
I have a hard time buying into what looks to be a +1 year delivery on these wheels.

Hi Doug,
Looks like the only TB that fits the 9's are the 270's, is that what your running?

Speaking of Harvey Weidmann, we sent a set of wheels to be restored in May, he looked them over, told us what it was going to cost and said that it would be 3 months before he could get to them.. We went ahead (unsolicited) sent a check for the full amount. He called raising hell that the wheels wouldn't done any faster (we had no problem with the time line, just figured he would be happy if he was aready paid, boy were we wrong:eek:) and we still don't have the wheels..

Most reputable businesses don't require full payment if there is going to be a long lead time for products at most they would require a good faith deposit that is applied either to the purchase or refunded if the order is cancelled. Pelican, Summitracing, Bitzracing, Clewett, and Oklahoma Foreign were all that way.

If I could order a set of them and receive them in two weeks of so I would order today. I just can't see paying thousands of dollars and not getting my wheels for about a year.

They will receive my order when they can ship something from stock.

the FTC mandates that every 30 days of delay requires customer contact for continued consent to that delay. Not to mention it's just common courtesy.

All this delay talk has me wondering what a nice set of 8's and 9's is worth used. Hmmmm.

I would guess prices might increase if other wheel options decrease.

Sherwood

Varyat
It's not my place to interpret what others are saying, but I suspect Reaper was probably bending over backward not to be negatve about Zuffenhaus. Sometimes it's more important to be a gentleman than to get into a mudslinging contest.
Tom

15s or 16s???/

So why try now?

I was just jokingly wondering what my Jeff Alton 17x8 & 9 Fuchs would be worth.... no waiting. Of course my challenge would be the fact that the centers are powder coated red.

The 17" Zuffenhaus wheels are worth the wait - IMHO - But what is up with this lack of a sense of urgency? I was one of the initial guys like Ed and Ed Hughes - I ordered two sets and waited and waited... Seriously it seems to be rampant in the porsche community.

Byron mentions Harvey - I heard Harvey has a 4 month wait to get wheels refinished. I waited over 90 days for Al Reed (yes, is wife was sick, and yes, I was understanding) Jim at Tru Design was pretty quick with my other set of wheels - so I guess I can not complain.

But now I am waiting on SPARCO. I ordered and paid for a set of seat inserts for a set of Evo2s I picked up - IN OCTOBER. Still don't have a ship date - Sparco can not give me an answer on when they will be produced, shipped (although they took my money pretty quickly) My friend Chis is waiting for his car at a local shop - they are probably three MONTHS past their initial dual date.... I know there is a price for perfection (and apparently a long waiting period) - but seriously wtf?

(One) moral of the story: don't order a set of Zuffenhaus Fuchs and sell your current wheels in the meantime.

FWIW, I love my wheels. I appreciate the fact that for once a guy (Jeff Alton) wanted to make a product and make it right. High quality was the prime consideration--not rushing something to market before it was done properly. Thanks.

So what advice can you give someone who needs 17" 9s and 11s in 3 months from today and hasn't decided on a vendor?

My name has been mentioned in this thread a couple of times, I wanted to be clear that I am not associated with Zuffenhaus, or these wheels any longer. I have not been for approx 15 months.

Has anyone tried calling them to see what their plans are lately or is everyone just speculating on line? From my dealings with Zuffenhaus, I can say that they are good guys.

End the madness
 

Guys,

I placed an order with the Zuffenhaus guys ... Could not deliver.

I placed an order with Fikse ... Could not deliver.

I placed an order with Forgeline ... HOME RUN !!!!!

The guys @ Forgeline are professionals and they delivered a fabulous product exactly when they said they would.

The stock-look of the Zuffenhaus is certainly an attractive attribute of the wheel, but if you are pissed off after waiting for a year or more I'd rather just buy a Chevy and put some ugly Cragers on it!

Regards, Dave

Oops, sorry. Just habit.