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efhughes3 01-12-2011 02:33 PM

There is another cure for this need to update the P-car....993!

RSBob 01-12-2011 05:08 PM

Enjoy the Cayman and the Cayman BB. Don't foreget to check back once in a while.

steve911T 01-13-2011 05:09 AM

Yes, the Cayman S is a great car. My brother has one plus he kept his 86 Carrera. Just beware of one thing, hard to work on (according to my brother) so you may be stuck having all of the work done by someone else. Also, consider getting the extended warranty because of anything from minor to major fails, after the warranty, you are screwed (big bucks). Saying all that, I am extremely jealous like everyone else on the post.

UrQuattro 01-13-2011 05:27 AM

Wow dude, I would LOVE a cayman s. They are fantastic cars.

As a fellow sc targa owner with a unique color (mine being kalahari beige metallic), I have to say that your old car is simply mouth-watering. You really took amazing care of it, and it is painted in one of my all time favorite colors (I think - or close enough). And when you see a cork interior in really nice shape you can't do anything but stare at it.

Congratulations man.

Michael

JasonF 01-13-2011 05:39 AM

After owning 3 911's I just bought a new Cayman S. Modern cars have "e-gas" electronic throttles and the first thing I noticed was the lazy response from the gas pedal. I installed an aftermarket switch called a Sprint Booster (took all of 10 minutes) and the throttle response from the Cayman is similar to an early 911 with carbs. The suspension in my car needs to come down 1" or so.

Enjoy the car!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1294929502.jpg

UrQuattro 01-13-2011 05:41 AM

Are the suspensions still height adjustable stock, like on the 911s and 3.2s, or do you have to go aftermarket?

Michael

Brad w 01-13-2011 06:22 AM

WOW, I really expected to take a blood bath from you guys.

Here is some good news for me.

Right after i traded the 911 in to the dealer the ignition switch hung up and toasted the starter and ring gear. So when I was up there a few days later I asked if they sold the car and they told me of the problem. So, it is at the dealer with the motor out getting fixed.
I felt awful but at the same time glad i wasn't responsible for the repair.
Brad

JasonF 01-13-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrQuattro (Post 5781450)
Are the suspensions still height adjustable stock, like on the 911s and 3.2s, or do you have to go aftermarket?

Michael

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me aftermarket is the way to get there.

ninelevenick 01-13-2011 07:05 AM

That Cayman S is sharp - enjoy the heck out of it!

Cayman's and all water cooled 911's have coil over suspension. Lowering the car requires new coil springs and shocks that are matched to the spring rate.

daniel911T 01-13-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad w (Post 5781510)
WOW, I really expected to take a blood bath from you guys.

Here is some good news for me.

Right after i traded the 911 in to the dealer the ignition switch hung up and toasted the starter and ring gear. So when I was up there a few days later I asked if they sold the car and they told me of the problem. So, it is at the dealer with the motor out getting fixed.
I felt awful but at the same time glad i wasn't responsible for the repair.
Brad

I traded in a 2002 Audi allroad a few months back because the maint. costs were eating me alive. Shortly after the new owners took possession it had a pretty serious engine failure with pictures of chuncks missing out of valves and stuff. Bummer for them, but I'm really glad I didn't have that bill! :D

Congrats again! I would do the same if the old lady would let me!

If you don't mind the rude question, what did it cost?

-Dan

UrQuattro 01-13-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

That Cayman S is sharp - enjoy the heck out of it! <br>
<br>
Cayman's and all water cooled 911's have coil over suspension. Lowering the car requires new coil springs and shocks that are matched to the spring rate.
I'm a little confused. I know that "coil over suspension" can refer to a standard macpherson strut setup with a fixed perch for the spring.

So, on these cars, do they have threaded bodies for the springs, stock? And if so, why would you need to go to aftermarket springs and shocks by default, because if you look at how 911's with the torsion bar suspensions have factory height adjustable suspensions, and people are constantly lowering the cars without needing to go to larger torsion bars and stiffer shocks.

So, what is the difference that I'm missing? I'm sorry if I'm seeming dense, I'm just trying to understand the new cars' suspensions and how they work.

Michael

wgirardot 01-13-2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrQuattro (Post 5781734)
I'm a little confused. I know that "coil over suspension" can refer to a standard macpherson strut setup with a fixed perch for the spring.

So, on these cars, do they have threaded bodies for the springs, stock? And if so, why would you need to go to aftermarket springs and shocks by default, because if you look at how 911's with the torsion bar suspensions have factory height adjustable suspensions, and people are constantly lowering the cars without needing to go to larger torsion bars and stiffer shocks.

So, what is the difference that I'm missing? I'm sorry if I'm seeming dense, I'm just trying to understand the new cars' suspensions and how they work.

Michael


when is someone going to give this guy a bloodbath over this ??? :) just kidding
I want that blue Targa !

Mycar 01-13-2011 11:27 AM

Ageed. That blue Targa is the tastiest targa I`ve ever seen.....

And that Cayman is very... red.

Mike.

efhughes3 01-13-2011 11:40 AM

2nd tastiest

Quote:

Ageed. That blue Targa is the tastiest targa I`ve ever seen.....<br>
<br>
And that Cayman is very... red.<br>
<br>
Mike.

ninelevenick 01-13-2011 11:44 AM

If I saw both those cars on the road, I would give the Cayman a couple of glances, but I wouldn't take my eyes off the Targa.

Brad w 01-13-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhughes3 (Post 5782158)
2nd tastiest

JoAnn likes Ruby better than the Blue one.

yelcab1 01-13-2011 12:11 PM

OK, here is the bloodbath

My girl is 10 years old. When she is ready to drive in 8 years, I will call you and offer $10K for the CaymanS.

aigel 01-13-2011 12:33 PM

Yeah, what yelcab1 said ... depreciation will kill you on that car while the SC held steady. Ad like Ed said, that was good 993 money out the window.

Of course you are posting on the 911 board, so don't expect any love for non 911 cars. ;)

G

schumicat 01-13-2011 01:04 PM

coilover is a confusing term because it can just mean the shock is inside the spring (which is how many many, many cars are configured at the front end) or it can mean that plus it is has the threaded body and perch that lets you corner balance, adjust height, etc. When you hear most car guys say the car has coilovers, it means the latter. I doubt the Cayman has the latter type from the factory. The old 911s are the only car I've owned that lets you adjust height without changing suspension parts.

on the original topic, both cars are great. You will miss the awesome, spacious rear seats though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrQuattro (Post 5781734)
I'm a little confused. I know that "coil over suspension" can refer to a standard macpherson strut setup with a fixed perch for the spring.

So, on these cars, do they have threaded bodies for the springs, stock? And if so, why would you need to go to aftermarket springs and shocks by default, because if you look at how 911's with the torsion bar suspensions have factory height adjustable suspensions, and people are constantly lowering the cars without needing to go to larger torsion bars and stiffer shocks.

So, what is the difference that I'm missing? I'm sorry if I'm seeming dense, I'm just trying to understand the new cars' suspensions and how they work.

Michael


JMatta 01-13-2011 03:15 PM

Congrats on the Cayman S...the mid engine platform is such a blast to drive (coming from a lifelong 911 owner). With regard to lowering, it depends how aggressive you wish to get. I lowered my 986 S 1.5" with H&R Sport Springs and they match the shocks/anti-sway bars very well. To go lower/adjustable, you need to purchase threaded components with adjustable perches. Of course this also leads to adjustable toe links, etc.

Enjoy and don't look back (or buy another 911 to drive for a change of pace!)


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