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FrankyV 12-21-2011 08:57 AM

1. Sale
2. Fuchs real
3. Size, 16x7 and 16X8
4. Offset 911
5. Quantity 4
6. Condition: Good
7. Finish: anodized center/brushed rim
8. Center color: black
9. Sale Date 12/14/11
10. Selling price for wheels $1000

Nemesis 12-21-2011 09:14 AM

14 x 5.5 Fuchs
 
Would they fetch $150 per wheel perhaps ???

C

Joe Bob 12-21-2011 09:15 AM

Depending on condition.

Nemesis 12-21-2011 09:16 AM

14 x 5.5 Fuchs
 
Excellent original condition but not refinished.
C

Joe Bob 12-21-2011 09:18 AM

Doesn't hurt to post an ad and see who bites. TheSamba.com :: Volkswagen Classifieds, photos, shows, forums, and information

Joe Bob 12-21-2011 10:14 AM

16x6 and 7s....$600 in San Diego. NOT MINE....TheSamba.com :: VW Classifieds - Porsche Fuchs 16x6 and 16x7 for sale

intrepidagent 01-04-2012 10:38 AM

1. Sale
2. Fuchs real
3. Size, 15x7 (2) & 15x8 (2)
4. Offset 911
5. Quantity 4
6. Condition: Excellent 9/10
7. Finish: anodized/painted
8. Center color: Black
9. Sale Date 12/21/11
10. Shipped from location: Southern PA
11. Shipped to location: Southern FL
12. Asking price for wheels 1100
13. Selling price for wheels 1100
14. Included useable Michelin Pilots with 5/32" Tread

The funds from that sale went to the following:

1. Purchase
2. Fuchs real
3. Size, 16x7 (2) 16x8 (2)
4. Offset 951
5. Quantity 4
6. Condition: Good 7/10
7. Finish: anodized/painted
8. Center color: Black
9. Sale Date 12/26/11
10. Shipped from location: Northern OH
11. Shipped to location: Southern PA
12. Asking price for wheels 960
13. Selling price for wheels 960
14. Included useable Conti Sport Contacts with 7/32" tread. Total price was 1100
shipped. Shipping was approximately 140.

Mehoff 01-05-2012 10:33 AM

Only $1k for 16x7/8 911 offset Fuchs!? Yikes, looks like my takeoffs and spares are staying in the garage.

911Freak 01-05-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehoff (Post 6474672)
Only $1k for 16x7/8 911 offset Fuchs!? Yikes, looks like my takeoffs and spares are staying in the garage.

That was a killer deal as a fair price for just a pair of 911 16x8s seem to be (depending on condition) between 1,000 and 1,300 for the pair.

Now add a nice pair of 16x7s and that set seems to sell on avg for about 1,300 to 1,800 as a nice set of 7s run around 350-400...

That's what I've seen here over the past 2 years.

16x8s selling for higher price then 16x6&7s, or pair of 9s...

YMMV
SmileWavy

intrepidagent 01-05-2012 04:40 PM

Maybe the prices have peaked and are starting to head downwards. Especially with new model Fuchs on the market.

intrepidagent 02-04-2012 06:02 AM

Just picked up another pair of 951 Fuchs this week. Details are:

1. Purchase
2. Fuchs real
3. Size, 16x7 (2)
4. Offset 951
5. Quantity 2
6. Condition: VG 8/10
7. Finish: anodized/painted
8. Center color: Black
9. Sale Date 02/03/12
10. Shipped from location: Eastern VA
11. Shipped to location: Southern PA
12. Asking price for wheels $400
13. Selling price for wheels $400 Shipped
14. Selling price included shipping via FedEx Ground.

tpickstone 02-04-2012 01:20 PM

sale of (5) 4.5 X 15 Fuchs from 1967
 
1. Sale
2. Fuchs real
3. 15 X 4.5
4. Offset ?
5. Quantity 5
6. Condition: VG 8/10
7. Finish: old, faded, original, no scratches, no caps
8. Center color: alloy
9. Sale Date 12/20/2011
10. Shipped from location: 55340
11. Shipped to location: 98225
12. Asking price for wheels $3200
13. Selling price for wheels $3300 Shipped
14. Selling price included shipping via FedEx Ground.

tpickstone 02-04-2012 01:35 PM

Fuchs
 
1. Purchase
2. Fuchs real
3. Size Flat 6 X 15
4. Offset ?
5. Quantity 4
6. Condition: VG 9/10
7. Finish: all polished
8. Center color: polished alu
9. Sale Date June 2011
10. Shipped from location: Calgary Alberta
11. Shipped to location: Victoria BC
12. Asking price for wheels $800
13. Selling price for wheels $800 Shipped
14. Selling price included shipping via Canada Post

intakexhaust 02-04-2012 10:35 PM

Jan 2012 deal Chicago. $700 set of genuine Fuchs w/ original finish early turbo offset (2) 7 and (2) 8 x 16's.
Included an aged set of Pirellis and center caps. Very good +. Wheels were take-offs, replaced by BBS and sat for years.

BlueWing 02-05-2012 04:56 AM

1. Purchase
2. Real
3. 2 - 16x6 and 2- 16x7
4. 911 offset
5. 4
6. Good 7 out of 10
7. Original anodized/painted
8. Center color: Black
9. 1/08/2010
10. Long Island
11. Picked up
12. $ 600.00
13. $600.00
14. Factory date coded 1979 with matching center caps (black) for my 79 SC

Terry

Timmay! 02-24-2012 06:09 PM

Sold a set of Fuchs 7 and 8 x 15, sold in Jan 2012, 911 offset from early 944, Excellent condition, not anodized,
asked $1000, sold for $1,000.
I'm told these are going to Europe where they are worth even more!

CaptainCalf 02-24-2012 06:43 PM

Bought four 16x6 Fuchs for $425 delivered Florida to be used as cores for 9x11x17" weld ups.

mikepellegrini 02-24-2012 07:07 PM

Any premium for gold anodized Fuchs? I've got a set on my 83 944 that have 911 part numbers. 15" with 7's in front and 8's in back. It doesn't seem like they're very common.

They were painted black when I got the car, then after maybe a year, my son noticed the paint was chipping off and underneath, you could see gold.

So I got some paint remover from Home Depot and lo and behold, I had gold Fuchs. The car's black so it looks particularly good; I can't imagine why anyone would have painted them...

http://www.mikepellegrini.com/Graphics/gold_fuchs.jpg

rattlsnak 02-24-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepellegrini (Post 6580951)
Any premium for gold anodized Fuchs? I can't imagine why anyone would have painted them...

That would be a negative value and somebody painted/anadized them gold over the factory black.

rattlsnak 02-24-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehoff (Post 6474672)
Only $1k for 16x7/8 911 offset Fuchs!? Yikes, looks like my takeoffs and spares are staying in the garage.

??? thats a few hundred high.. ! Everyone who is selling wheels doesnt want to believe that these prices are dropping apparantly. I just bought another 7x16 and 8x16 set for $700.00 last week.

mikepellegrini 02-25-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 6581010)
That would be a negative value and somebody painted/anadized them gold over the factory black.

No, you have it backwards. They were anodized gold underneath the black paint. Gold is the original, factory color.

techweenie 02-25-2012 05:11 AM

That's paint, not anodizing. The gold paint could have come from the factory. There were many versions of Fuchs done with different colored centers. I've seen gold centered 7 & 8" Fuchs like those on '74 and '75 Carreras.

While it is possible to anodize aluminum in a whole range of colors, the gold anodizing would be very pale. Anodizing is more of a tint. Also, anodizing selected areas of a wheel is something only done in the aftermarket, and not by many vendors.

Jeff Alton 02-25-2012 07:30 AM

Actually gold anodizing come out very vivid.

mikepellegrini 02-25-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 6581468)
That's paint, not anodizing. The gold paint could have come from the factory. There were many versions of Fuchs done with different colored centers. I've seen gold centered 7 & 8" Fuchs like those on '74 and '75 Carreras.

While it is possible to anodize aluminum in a whole range of colors, the gold anodizing would be very pale. Anodizing is more of a tint. Also, anodizing selected areas of a wheel is something only done in the aftermarket, and not by many vendors.

Nope. Like I said, I took the black paint off with paint remover. What was underneath is gold-colored aluminum, the result of dye being added during the process of anodizing.

Anodizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

techweenie 02-25-2012 11:34 AM

Well, nothing's impossible, but those wheels would have had to be anodized then the anodizing polished off the outer rim to make them look like the pictures. Never seen that before, but I have seen that shade of gold paint on Fuchs centers.

mikepellegrini 02-25-2012 04:51 PM

Yup, it's metal. Polished outer rim; gold anodized inner.

Anodizing is just an electro-chemical process that deposits a thin layer of (usually harder) metal on the surface of the part. Dyes can be added for color.

The whole wheel is anodized. If I was gonna guess, I'd say that it was done on a two-part process where the dye was added only to the inner portion while the rest of the wheel was masked off.

That's an interesting question. I'll have to do some research.

I found this page, which lays the process out: http://www.focuser.com/anodize.html masking is out; After reading this, I'm not sure how these wheels were done.

You don't see these wheels very often, that's why I asked if they would be priced differently. Like I said, they're 15" - 7's and 8's with a 911 part number.

http://www.mikepellegrini.com/Graphics/after.jpg

RSBob 02-25-2012 05:25 PM

Am purchasing two original anodized 7x15s for an agreed price of $620 for the pair in like new condition.

rattlsnak 02-25-2012 05:46 PM

well FWIW, i still dont think that is factory. I have never seen gold wheels from the factory. But either way, it would come down to personal choice at this point on the value, but gold was more of an 80s color.

911Freak 02-25-2012 07:54 PM

Those gold wheels came on silver(?) Anniversary 911s. I've seen them here in the 911 picture threads many times. They only came from Porsche on that year 911 in the 15x7&8 size. Never have seen them in 16s.

They look great on a black car!

Enjoy!

mikepellegrini 02-25-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Freak (Post 6582992)
Those gold wheels came on silver(?) Anniversary 911s. I've seen them here in the 911 picture threads many times. They only came from Porsche on that year 911 in the 15x7&8 size. Never have seen them in 16s.

They look great on a black car!

Enjoy!

Thanks! Yeah, black and gold is a really great combination.

SilberUrS6 02-27-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehoff (Post 6474672)
Only $1k for 16x7/8 911 offset Fuchs!? Yikes, looks like my takeoffs and spares are staying in the garage.

Well, that is probably for the best. I have had my eyes open to replace my replica set with 7s and 8s, but the plain reality is that there are no more 245/45R16 tires being made in street rubber. Even 245/50R16 rubber is pretty slim pickin's. Wide 16s aren't the hot ticket for tire makers, so in the next few years you won't be able to buy anything but track rubber for those wheels, and maybe not even then.

I figured that most owners of 7s and 8s would know this, and would want to get rid of their wheels now, while they still had value. But it seems like folks think these wheels are still worth $1200-1500 for the set. I think for that kind of money, I'll wait until the 17" replicas come out, and pay the $800-900 that the set will cost. When those wheels become available, good luck getting anything like that for real 16" Fuchs in the wider sizes.

mgatepi 02-28-2012 06:16 AM

Silber, sorry but you may not be accurate as for tire availibility;
Details: Nexen N 3000 245/45 ZR16 94W - tires-easy.com

Take a look.
mg

SilberUrS6 02-28-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgatepi (Post 6588202)
Silber, sorry but you may not be accurate as for tire availibility;
Details: Nexen N 3000 245/45 ZR16 94W - tires-easy.com

Take a look.
mg

I did, and called them. No stock, and "I'll get back to you about back order timing." Haven't heard back in five weeks, and every other place that listed them says "We don't have any, and they've been discontinued."

RSBob 02-28-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 6582834)
well FWIW, i still dont think that is factory. I have never seen gold wheels from the factory. But either way, it would come down to personal choice at this point on the value, but gold was more of an 80s color.

Constantly amazed a people who site opinions when they don't have the facts and could easily look them up using the mighty Google.

Factory gold wheels came on the Weissach special edition, just like another poster mentioned earlier.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1330481158.gif

BW911 02-29-2012 12:18 PM

On the tires issue for 9-inch wide 16 inch fuchs: I just bought a set of the Nexens for my 88 Carrera with 7/9 wheels. The Nexens are available if you look around. And they are surprisingly nice tires for the street. A great value at a little more than $100 a tire. They have exceeded my expectations.


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