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Removing frozen alternator nut

Anyone ever manage to remove the fan nut using that POS pulley spanner in the tool kit?

I can't get mine off. Some have suggested sticking a screwdriver into the hole, but I don't see hoe that buys much leverage.

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If you mean the pulley tool, it should work just fine, at least it always has for me, both the older type with the 2 prongs sticking out perpendicular, and the newer kind with the holes on the inside of the pulley rim.

Before I bought the tool, I used to jam a piece of steel in one of the holes. I think that might be part of what contributed to my needing a new alternator last year. I wouldn't ever do it again.
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This is what I have. I can't get enough leverage with it. The pulley just turns it when I try to remove the nut.

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have someone strong hold it with both hands. I wouldn't use the screwdriver method.
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Did exactly that. No good. Nut is too tight. I put some PB Blaster on it, and will try again in the morning. If that doesn't work, I'll try some heat.
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Also, can someone tell me if the bolt by the lower pulley (indicated by the red arrow) has a nut on the back or just bolts in? I can't figure out how to get to the back, and it is interfering with sliding the belt onto the alternator pulley.
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Anyone ever manage to remove the fan nut using that POS pulley spanner in the tool kit?

I can't get mine off. Some have suggested sticking a screwdriver into the hole, but I don't see hoe that buys much leverage.
Somebody posted this a while back.



As for the nut, you may need a ratchet/socket,
and some type of torque amplifier on your ratchet handle.

A long pipe?

Good luck,

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This is what I have. I can't get enough leverage with it. The pulley just turns it when I try to remove the nut.

Not familiar with that design.

Ours looks like this.

By the way, NO HEAT!!!

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Much nicer tool. I think the other came in my tool kit.

Tried the pry bar. Couldn't keep the wrench in the hole.

Why no heat?
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The tool should have a much longer handle on it. Get a new one, then put a pipe on it, and use a long breaker bar on the nut. Position the pipe and breaker bar close to one another where you are pushing the two together. That's usually a good position to be able apply a lot of torque.

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Some alternator shafts (my 2 do) have a hex key hole in them. Ive found that useful when doing this activity, but ive never had to resort to breaker bars on the nut, just a 1/2 inch drive ratchet has worked for me, or if i use the hex key, the appropriate size box wrench
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use an impact gun it wont hurt anything taking it off
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I found this additional piece to the one above in the garage. Never knew what it was for. Think I do now. It's a sleeve that fit's over the stubby spanner.

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+1 on using the impact gun.
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impact gun and good tight impact socket. Make sure the gun is turning in the proper direction.

Soak it with liquid wrench or WD 40 over night first.
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Need to get a 24 mm impact socket. Soaking with PB Blaster now.
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I've never seen that "tool" before. It looks like a poorly made homemade substitute for the proper tool. You can buy the proper one from Pelican for I think $30. Trust me, it'll make your life a lot easier!
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Christien. I've no doubt, and will order one from Pelican. However that would take about a week, in which time I'll be in Tibet. I need to do this yesterday. I'm wondering if the tool pictured is left over from my 356 toolkit. I must have the one from my 911 toolkit somewhere. I bought the car new.
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Have located the proper tools from a friend locally. Thanks Matt.

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