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Dapperlighting 10-27-2011 10:22 AM

Okay it looks like I have been able to confirm these will fit on all models up to 1986 as plug and play. You must have your stock H4 plug for our kit to be plug and play on your vehicle.
http://i.imgur.com/ZDw4Ml.jpg

SCHNELE 02-06-2013 06:06 AM

subscribed.

gsmith660 02-06-2013 07:12 AM

Linc for your high end über car you need something more with a little more flair than a 7 inch sugar scoop replacement

SCHNELE 02-06-2013 08:03 AM

Just an observer, I want to see where this goes.

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 08:09 AM

I believe this rolled over to several threads but this was the ultimate result.

Porsche 911 - Classic Style Headlights | Dapper Lighting

wwest 02-06-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott at Pelican Parts (Post 6330532)
I've seen threads here where people are using clever solutions to install projector headlights on their air-cooled 911s. I've been speaking to a company who offers a kit for our classic cars.

Classic 7" Projector Headlight Kit

Dapper Lighting and Pelican would like to offer one Pelicanite a discounted price ($300) on a projector kit in exchange for your writing a tech article detailing the installation process and offering your opinion on how well this kit works. Dapper will offer tech support for the installation and provide some free ballast upgrades for your effort.

Send me a PM if you are interested. First come, first served.

A fool and his money are easily parted...!!

"This" is what you are buying.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-H1-H7-9005-9006-Headlight-Bi-xenon-Headlight-HID-Projector-Lens-Hi-Lo-light-/220967697663?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &vxp=mtr&hash=item3372b37cff

Two of these...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Slim-DC-35W-Wireless-HID-Xenon-Ballast-Aluminum-Base-PCB-H1-H3-H7-9007-/271058456099?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM& hash=item3f1c57ce23

Just don't be a ricer and hook up the angel eyes.

And...everything can be mounted inside the existing headlight bucket.

Below are base 7" headlight assembly, lens to be heated, removed, and re-installed in accordance with kit.

7" Round Projector Headlights w H4 Bulb Pair Chrome | eBay

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255525)
A fool and his money are easily parted...!!

"This" is what you are buying.


H4 H1 H7 9005 9006 Headlight Bi Xenon Headlight HID Projector Lens Hi Lo Light | eBay

Two of these...

New Slim DC 35W Wireless HID Xenon Ballast Aluminum Base PCB for H1 H3 H7 9007 | eBay

Just don't be a ricer and hook up the angel eyes.

And...everything can be mounted inside the existing headlight bucket.

7" Round Projector Headlights w H4 Bulb Pair Chrome | eBay

He is referring to retrofitting which is also an option. It is more affordable but I would use bolt projectors instead of OEM style. Makes the install much easier. I would also use a different headlight bucket that doesn't have a fake projector in the middle. Just use a standard H4 conversion housing. Takes some time to fabricate but is just as effective. Our units are manufactured pieces that were designed to fit together and keep nearly the same dimensions as a stock light. Most retrofits are 1.5-2" longer in the back than a stock headlight.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360174760.jpg

wwest 02-06-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dapperlighting (Post 7255680)
He is referring to retrofitting which is also an option. It is more affordable but

I would use bolt projectors instead of OEM style.

Bolt? OEM?

Makes the install much easier. I would also use a different headlight bucket that doesn't have a fake projector in the middle. Just use a standard H4 conversion housing. Takes some time to fabricate but is just as effective. Our units are manufactured pieces that were designed to fit together and keep nearly the same dimensions as a stock light.

Most retrofits are 1.5-2" longer in the back than a stock headlight.

Do you mean using HID bulb with hi/lo solenoid base...? The only OPTION should be the solenoid moving the hi/lo shading apperture integral to the linked projector assembly. (***)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360174760.jpg

The "fake" projector link is only there as a way to get, inexpensively, a CLEAR lens in front of the projector lens.

*** Speaking of which, you do not make it clear as to which hi/lo approach your kit uses, bulb base solenoid or integral apperture?

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255703)
The "fake" projector link is only there as a way to get, inexpensively, a CLEAR lens in front of the projector lens.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360175306.jpg

Same price.

wwest 02-06-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dapperlighting (Post 7255715)

What am I looking at? The same headlight assembly I linked but with a hi/lo solenoid integral to the HID bulb base?

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255763)
What am I looking at? The same headlight assembly I linked but with a hi/lo solenoid integral to the HID bulb base?

There is no solenoid on either headlight. There's less clutter in this housing to make it easier to work with. The high/low shutter is built into the projectors.

To answer your other question: "Internal Aperture" or shutter type. I've never seen a projector that requires a bulb base solenoid....

wwest 02-06-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myamoto1 (Post 6330627)
Looks like this is for those with sugar scoops only. If they have a kit for H-4's, count me in.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360176838.jpg

wwest 02-06-2013 09:58 AM

Solenoid in HID bulb base tilts arc to/from hi/lo beam position.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360176838.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360176983.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360177037.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360177102.jpg

wwest 02-06-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dapperlighting (Post 7255715)

Still, what am I seeing/looking at..? Your base assembly before taking it apart to mount the projector assembly?

What did you mean "bolt" vs OEM..? "bolt-on"..?

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255794)
Solenoid in HID bulb base tilts arc to/from hi/lo beam position.

I'm familiar with bulb based solenoids. They aren't used in projectors though. Just retrofitted into a halogen housing to retain high/low for HIDs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255809)
Still, what am I seeing/looking at..? Your base assembly before taking it apart to mount the projector assembly?

What did you mean "bolt" vs OEM..? "bolt-on"..?

I'm suggesting to use a simpler housing to cut into if you are going to retrofit.

They make projectors that have a threaded end designed for retrofitting. You can "bolt" them into a cutout housing rather than mounting an "OEM" style projector that you have to epoxy/tape/glue whatever it may be.

http://i.imgur.com/oM2sa0ol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wRhvMHhl.jpg

brads911sc 02-06-2013 10:24 AM

Seems like WWEST is also the resident expert in these. Laughable. what an idiot. Every new thing that actually works.. he posts "the Fool is parted with his money" post... Dapper... carry on. Ignore WWEST. If you want to know more about him, do a search. Its quite entertaining... not surprised to see an ebay pic/link. LOL

wwest 02-06-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dapperlighting (Post 7255813)
I'm familiar with bulb based solenoids.

They aren't used in projectors though.

Quite clearly SHOULDN'T be, but sometimes are, regretably.

Just retrofitted into a halogen housing to retain high/low for HIDs.

....

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads911sc (Post 7255842)
Seems like WWEST is also the resident expert in these. Laughable. what an idiot. Every new thing that actually works.. he posts "the Fool is parted with his money" post... Dapper... carry on. Ignore WWEST. If you want to know more about him, do a search. Its quite entertaining...

I'm happy to clarify things. He has brought up some points about retrofitting and such.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255844)
....

I've never seen a bulb based solenoid used in a projector. Most projectors are bi-xenon. Low only projectors are designed to have secondary housings dedicated for high beams (many newer vehicles have gone this route- it gives you a ton of light on the road). I doubt folks would install bulb based solenoids into bi-xenon projectors. Plus they cost a lot more...

wwest 02-06-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dapperlighting (Post 7255813)
I'm familiar with bulb based solenoids. They aren't used in projectors though. Just retrofitted into a halogen housing to retain high/low for HIDs.



I'm suggesting to use a simpler housing to cut into if you are going to retrofit.

They make projectors that have a threaded end designed for retrofitting. You can "bolt" them into a cutout housing rather than mounting an "OEM" style projector that you have to epoxy/tape/glue whatever it may be.

http://i.imgur.com/oM2sa0ol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wRhvMHhl.jpg

That's exactly how the retrofit I linked works, heat/remove the front lens, mount the projector housing in place of the halogen bulb and then glue (provided in the kit) the clear lens back in place.

Dapperlighting 02-06-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 7255873)
That's exactly how the retrofit I linked works, heat/remove the front lens, mount the projector housing in place of the halogen bulb and then glue (provided in the kit) the clear lens back in place.

I'm merely suggesting bolted projectors to save glue/align/dry efforts and time.


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