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tdskip 01-14-2012 05:43 PM

Rear sway bar mounting point question on a '74
 
Hi guys - my car didn't have a rear bar on her (which is correct for the year) when I got her and I'd like to add one.

Is this my factory mounting point? Yeah, know it is bent.

Think I can bent it back without it weakening the metal too much?

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...tos/mount3.jpg

Thanks guys.

DRACO A5OG 01-14-2012 05:48 PM

Yes it sure is, check the weld points for fracture after you bend back. You should be fine.

If the mount nuts are stripped ( they are very soft), use SS Grade 8 Bolts and Lock nuts from ACE. They woked great for me.

tdskip 01-14-2012 05:52 PM

You know Jim, I was worried there for a couple of minutes because it took you all of like 5 minutes to answer my random question on Saturday night. Try to be more prompt next time, ok?

Holy cow you guys are great.

I'll look for cracks. Thanks!

Tidybuoy 01-14-2012 06:52 PM

This is what's on my '74. I believe it is the Weltmeister bracket but I'm not sure as it was there when I got the car. This clamps onto the torsion tube.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326599513.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326599539.jpg

JeremyD 01-14-2012 07:00 PM

If you run sticky tires I'd shoot for either the buckley racing Buckley Racing - 911 Car Prep

or wevo mounts

tdskip 01-14-2012 07:11 PM

These?

http://www.buckley-racing.com/images...swaymounts.jpg

JeremyD 01-15-2012 10:20 AM

yep = those are the ones... The weld to the tub and the torsion bar

DaveA 01-15-2012 01:24 PM

Best thing to do is to weld a reforcing plate on the inside of the mounts, and keeping the orginal mounts.

R/Dave

Walt Fricke 01-15-2012 01:49 PM

I'm with Dave A. If you had no mounts at all, either a torsion tube mount or a much reinforced weld-on mount like the WEVO would commend itself.

But you already have mounts. If you reinforce them (which is not hard if you can weld at all, and not expensive if you can't), they will stand up pretty darn well even when abused.

Reinforcing typically amounts to cutting a piece of siutable sheet metal to roughly the size of the vertical part of the mount, and welding it on, creating a kind of enclosed space where the nuts are. Someone also sold a sort of X shaped reinforcement, allowing access to the nut in case it strips or its weld breaks and you need to hold it with a wrench for R&Ring the sway bar.

tdskip 01-15-2012 03:21 PM

Thanks guys - I do weld so I'll look at making some reinforcing plates.

Can I switch gears a bit and ask about the rear bar I bought? This was listed and confirmed over the phone as being a "drop in" for my '74. I don't have access t the car and the bar in the same place, so forgive me for not actually trying it.

This looks right as it will push on to the mounting point on my trailing arm.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...os/rearbar.jpg

Here is the bar side detail.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/rearbar3.jpg

And detail on the side.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/rearbar2.jpg

1976 TN Porsche 01-15-2012 03:52 PM

Looks like you have got the right drop links but you have the wrong swaybar. Your swaybar looks like one from a later model 911. I think you will need one for the early model cars. Here is what I have on my 1976 911S. The swaybar in the background is the early style and the one in the foreground is the later style. Hope this helps.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326675088.jpg

tdskip 01-15-2012 04:00 PM

Sigh, hence the question. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

So basically I got totally shafted by the Pelican guy I bought these from then. I had that guy feeling but decided to trust the guy. He also sent a front bar that was the same size that I already have (stock). Grrr.

1976 TN Porsche 01-15-2012 04:09 PM

That is pretty rare. I have never had a Pelican do me wrong. Don't let this one experience change your mind about the Pelican community. There are real good people here.

tdskip 01-15-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1976 TN Porsche (Post 6495705)
That is pretty rare. I have never had a Pelican do me wrong. Don't let this one experience change your mind about the Pelican community. There are real good people here.

Yes, agree, lots of good people. The help I've received as a newbie has been just amazing. Everyone has been very generous with their time and experience.

I took part in the SoCal part out part last weekend, which was a hoot. Good folks.

I've bought wheels, door pockets, and a bunch of other bits. All came as promised or better.

But this seller was a snake. He sent me the stock front bar (which I had of course) and then this one for my 1974. I'm pissed.

PropellerHead 01-15-2012 05:01 PM

What is the diameter of the rear bar? I have a 'proper' rear bar (for the '74 drop links you have) and may be willing to trade you straight across for the one you have. Provided the diameter is okay.
I'm looking to go the other way as my car doesn't have the receiver ball on the trailing arms and yet I have a bar to utilize them.
PM me.
Cheers,
Chet

tdskip 01-15-2012 05:05 PM

It is an 18mm bar.

PM sent Chet.

1976 TN Porsche 01-15-2012 08:42 PM

Cool.

tdskip 01-16-2012 04:57 AM

Yeah. Like you said 1976, good people here for the most part.

aston@ultrasw.c 01-16-2012 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 6495191)
yep = those are the ones... The weld to the tub and the torsion bar

X2 the best!

chrismorse 01-16-2012 06:39 AM

If you have an 18 mm rear bar, the front bar should be 20 mm. This bar set is the "Carrera" option. If the front bar is thinner, you willlikely have a lot more oversteer.


Some of the rear mount solutions, like Wevo, are made for later year models, that is the bolt spacing is 10-20 mm wider, so you will need bigger straps. The good news is that you can then buy poly bar mount bushings, which are not available for the 74 narrow mounts.

Here is a link to my fix with the Wevo mounts:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/617072-replacing-rear-bar-mounts-74-911-a.html

Is your fuel pump still in the back stock location??

hth,
chris


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