Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Westchester County NY
Posts: 149
Garage
Backdate vs restore?

So I have a project 1975 911S that is red that needs a restoration. I am thinking of backdating it. trying to figure out what it would be worth restored? Backdated in steel? Backdated using fiberglass body parts? I know I want to strip it down and repaint it in the silver that it once was, and possibly do an RS style interior. This is what the car looks like, I bought it 5 years ago at an estate auction for $1,510 and have stored in a garage and am ready to get it on the road.

John


Old 03-04-2012, 07:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
ROW '78 911 Targa
 
timmy2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 10,214
Garage
Rust free '78 and up galvanized SC front fenders, doors and the parts to restore it to a stock external configuration will be less work and are more available. Then again, if you have to strip it down that far... Guess it all boils down to time and money. You can do the interior in RS regardless of the outside look.
__________________
Dennis
Euro 1978 SC Targa, SSI's, Dansk 2/1, PMO ITBs, Electric A/C
Need a New Wiring Harness? PM or e-mail me. Search for "harnesses" in the classifieds.
Old 03-04-2012, 07:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Bear911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Africa
Posts: 272
Garage
It looks like you have a nice project that awaits you! Personally I feel backdating is a bit of a fad and a 'restored to original' car will possibly be worth more in the long run. Having said that, a narrow body like yours will make for an awesome backdate.

Another consideration is rust, it seems from the photo that you may have a lot of it. If you are going to be replacing fenders etc, then I suppose you might as well go for the backdate. How bad is the floor/ suspension pan etc? If there is going to be a lot of chopping, you may as well do whatever you want and not worry about originality.

It boils down to what you want, it is your car. So long as you keep it narrow! :-) Good luck and keep us posted!
__________________
Björn

'76 911 Carrera 3.0 Targa
'69 911 Outlaw
'99 996 C2
Old 03-04-2012, 07:43 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
LakeCleElum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lake Cle Elum - Eastern WA.
Posts: 8,417
Looks like front fenders are iffy anyhow....I vote to back date it.
__________________
Bob S.
73.5 911T
1969 911T Coo' pay (one owner)
1960 Mercedes 190SL
1962 XKE Roadster (sold) - 13 motorcycles
Old 03-04-2012, 07:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Montmorenci, SC
Posts: 557
I'd check the suspension pan condition first.. (safety issue) Then I would get the engine running and check out the drive train.. After that, decide on back dating or restoration.. I prefer restoration, but it's your car so have fun with it!!!!!
__________________
70 911T Sold 81 911SC Coupe
84 Mustang Turbo GT
66 Galaxy 500 Ragtop (my Mother bought it new)
88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
69 Torino Cobra (R) Code
Old 03-04-2012, 08:01 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kennewick, WA
Posts: 1,069
Garage
'75...

I vote backdate as well. It already has bright trim and the front appears rusted. It will probably cost a bit to square away rust in the chassis, but FG parts swap will drop some weight since they need repair work anyway.

A '75 is one of the least sought after 911's - I would not worry about collector interest for another 20 years, can you wait that long? If it was a mint original (even a '75), I'd vote to keep it stock.

I still plan on backdating my '82 SC. I like the look and I don't care if anybody else does or if its considered over done. If my SC was a mint low miler, I would not do it. I'm pushing close to 165k miles and collector interest will never be strong. I will save the original pieces (they're not worth much anyway) so a re-conversion is possible, but I doubt it will ever be converted back to stock.

There's a lot to be said for a fun driver that mimic's an icon in both look and performance. The people I feel sorry for are the collectors (and their cars) who are afraid to drive a real RS for fear of devaluation. Some of those same people will make fun of people who drive "clones." I find that amusing - "poor" rich guys....
Old 03-04-2012, 08:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
Dublinoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 784
Garage
Some of those same people will make fun of people who drive "clones." I find that amusing - "poor" rich guys....

So true....

I vote back date, narrow body, Aluminum trim, rust, great candidate.
Old 03-04-2012, 08:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Westchester County NY
Posts: 149
Garage
What is the value of a backdate? I don't intend on selling, just curios if it adds to my mine?
Old 03-04-2012, 08:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Boca Raton,Florida
Posts: 468
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonovan View Post
What is the value of a backdate? I don't intend on selling, just curios if it adds to my mine?
depends on how much you spend on the backdate!
__________________
1975 Carrera #116 3.6 guards red sold
1980 911sc Talbot Yellow got back!! 1978 911sc 3.6 Sold
1996 993 tt white Sold. 1997 993tt red Sold 1986 930 sold
1986 491 Prussian blue sold 2002 tt white sold
1996 993tt adventurine/gray 1987 carrera with a 3.8
Old 03-04-2012, 08:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
80 930, 74S
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rio Rancho
Posts: 760
You'll never see your money back either way. Do whatever you want, I'd keep it stock but whatever floats your boat.
Old 03-04-2012, 08:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Westchester County NY
Posts: 149
Garage
Oh, btw I will be doing all the bodywork and painting myself
Old 03-04-2012, 09:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
shbop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Oahu
Posts: 2,303
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonovan View Post
Oh, btw I will be doing all the bodywork and painting myself
You still probably won't see your money back. You'll have bragging rights, and maybe a really cool car, but it's very hard to make a buck. I don't want to say never. We have some really talented folks around here. Both mechanically and paint and body guys, but these usually turn out to be a labor of love. Build what you love.
__________________
Jon
Old 03-04-2012, 09:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
ratpiper71T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Cackalacky
Posts: 879
I don't know but I feel every generation has its uniqueness. But, and that's a big butt do what suits you. There won't be much of a cost difference between the two if done well. Remember FG rarely if ever fits right and even steel for that matter-especially fenders are going to need some work for the gaps and body work. If you're nt partial to those fender trims and they are in good shape-from what I understand they bring a pretty penny on the parts market.
Old 03-04-2012, 10:03 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 341
Why not get it running and driving well first? Then decide. I personally would just leave it as a "rat" survivor, but that's just me.
__________________
- 2014 Porsche Cayman - Guards Red/Black
- 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 - Silver/Burgundy
- 1973 Porsche 911 2.7S - Aubergine/Black - 2200 lbs !
- 1980 Porsche 931 - Malaga Red/Black (sold)
- 2015 VW Golf 1.8 TSI
Old 03-04-2012, 10:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
be here now
 
R K T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: somewhere. not here.
Posts: 2,544
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonovan View Post
What is the value of a backdate? I don't intend on selling, just curios if it adds to my mine?
Just sold my backdated '87 for 36K.....today!


__________________
Rob....
'66 911, '74 911, '85.5 944, '69 914-6, '65 356C, '01 986, '04 955S, '97 993 C2S, '55 356 OUTLAW, '98 993 Cab, '55 356 Speedster, '06 955S, '58 356A, '96 993 C4S, '87 BD 911, '95 993, '06 997S, '11 997.2S, '74 914 2.7, '15 981S
Old 03-04-2012, 10:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:43 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.