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Blackbyrd 08-15-2012 11:56 PM

Can I modify a 3.2 Carrera Cabriolet Engine mount to Solid type
 
I have a Carrera Cabriolet engine mount and I want to make it a solid mount


Can I modify this mount so that my engine mount is solid ?


I was thinking of Drilling 4 holes and adding the bolts/nuts like the solid type and cutting all the shock type stuff off.
Keep the bolts for the donut hole as well

Green = original threads
Yellow= new holes for Bolts/Nuts
Red= Cut off

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g/235b7059.jpg


These images were borrowed from an ebay auction
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g/4e3b81e8.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g/0bb1dcc2.jpg


Any one done this before ?

This is all for my current project http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/693701-dropped-row-3-2-engine-rebuiling-trans-while-there.html#post6905925

engine mount will be mated with the

Rebel Racing Engine mounts
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/695370-rebel-racing-engine-mounts.html#post6913748

1982911SCTarga 08-16-2012 06:25 AM

Why not trade (with some cash in it for you) for a standard engine mount? The cabriolet engine mount and associated items are much more rare.

Brian

djdsc 08-16-2012 08:34 AM

Why bother? The standard mounting bars are cheep, the same for almost 20 years and available from the recyclers like EASY.

Blackbyrd 08-16-2012 08:51 AM

I got all the tools laying around to do the job
But I don't have all the cash to buy another one...

Shops want an arm and a leg + I need to do this by tomorrow 9/17or tonight

It would take too long to get a piece...
According to PET the Item i need is specific to Carrera not 74-83

Blackbyrd 08-16-2012 10:59 PM

(Black Flag: Nervous break down)


I did it anyways !

This mount feels pretty thick (more so than I remember a Coupe version)

I put the mount on a vice, Drilled the holes where I wanted them

It took 4 different drill bit sizes
4 10mm nuts
4 washers
4 locking washers
4 10mm nuts

While I was at it, I removed the shock mount

It came out pretty good

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/6bf1f855.jpg
This is what I started with
the shock was literally Blown! it could completely move with just a hand touch.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/5cc6b46f.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/0c3cfcea.jpg
sorry about the pic
This is the hardware and 3 of the 4 drill bits used

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/dd09de06.jpg
Holes drilled before going to the last bit


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/c4c0dbcb.jpg

Cutting off the shock mount
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/d733896f.jpg


Final Product !

Not too bad
Eventually I will get the proper engine mount.. but for now this will do better than what I had.http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/1c4a11f7.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/77f3212b.jpg


Mounted on the engine http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...C/1fc0dee9.jpg


I'm hope this makes a bigger difference

Ferrino 12-04-2013 08:21 AM

I have always wondered what the shock on my engine mount is for and have now learned that my 3.2 engine donor must have been a Cabriolet. My car is a Coupe and, with the engine currently out, I would like to return to a solid engine mounting solution. It looks like I would need to swap out both the crossbar AND the large bracket that attaches directly to the engine - correct? If so, where could I source both pieces, please? Thanks!

Blackbyrd 12-04-2013 08:35 AM

I'll sell you the pictured one already modified for $100 shipped
the non modified one is actually worth alot ( I didn't realize it at the time)

I'm swapping engines and got a new mount

Ferrino 12-04-2013 10:15 AM

Thanks, but I think I'd like to source a factory Coupe crossbar and console.

BE911SC 12-04-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackbyrd (Post 7789286)
the non modified one is actually worth alot ( I didn't realize it at the time)

The first response to your thread informed you, or should have, that the cabriolet mount is rare and thus worth more.

Chuck.H 12-04-2013 10:26 AM

Looks good! Keep in mind, per factory manual, when you install the engine, after the 4 engine mounts are tight, loosen your 4 bolts on the crossbar to let the engine 'settle' and not be tweaked by any angle you may have when you assembled the crossbar. Just loosen all 4 and then re-tighten them.

Chuck.H
'89 TurboLookTarga, 369k miles

Ferrino 12-04-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BE911SC (Post 7789440)
The first response to your thread informed you, or should have, that the cabriolet mount is rare and thus worth more.

How much is a typical asking price for the complete assy? i.e. crossbar, console, damper, rubber isolator etc..

JJ 911SC 12-04-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrino (Post 7789249)
I have always wondered what the shock on my engine mount is for and have now learned that my 3.2 engine donor must have been a Cabriolet. My car is a Coupe and, with the engine currently out, I would like to return to a solid engine mounting solution. It looks like I would need to swap out both the crossbar AND the large bracket that attaches directly to the engine - correct? If so, where could I source both pieces, please? Thanks!

Its usually the other way around, a Cab that has the normal engine support.

Any Cab prior to 83 did not start their life as Cab, so if the conversion happened before 83, will have a solid engine support.

Yes the Cab version is almost 5 time more expansive ($737 vice $158).

JJ 911SC 12-04-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrino (Post 7789473)
How much is a typical asking price for the complete assy? i.e. crossbar, console, damper, rubber isolator etc..

I got lucky and got one with the Motor Mount Bracket for $200 delivered.

zippy_gg 12-04-2013 12:20 PM

What is gained by having a cab engine mount replaced with a coupe engine mount?
And what was the factory purpose for using a different mount for the cab?:confused:

darrin 12-04-2013 12:43 PM

This thread discusses why the cabs use a different engine mount http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/753459-cab-owners-replaced-your-engine-vibration-damper.html

As to why to switch to a solid mount, seems replacing it with a solid one on a non-cab would both reduce weight and complexity in the rear of the car (where you want to miminize weight, etc.)

zippy_gg 12-04-2013 01:50 PM

Thanks Darrin!;)


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