How much to build a 1967 SWB race car from a bare shell?

[ThomasB]

Hi,

I am owner of a '70 911E and love the car. A few weeks ago I took it to a driver education program with other colleagues in historic cars and had the time of my life.
The stories of snap oversteer/lift off oversteer had me worried since I first bought the car, but after 9 hours of "open racing" on a wet track I feel extremely comfortable with the car.
The trouble is that I really don’t want to punish this unrestored, rust free 1970 911E survivor so hard.

So I’d like to build a second car for racing/rallye/ice racing purposes. A friend of me would sell me a sound and 1967 SWB shell w/ title for a very good price, almost free.

I am wondering how much I’d have to spend to get the car up and running with —not necessarily period correct — reliable and affordable parts. No interior but a rollcage, bucket seats, etc.

Is this is doable for less than $20k or should I start looking elsewhere ?

[saxen]

All depends on how far you go and how much work you do yourself- from a bare shell it's prob going to cost you a lot more- look into an already set up 911sc and go have a blast

[ShakinJoe]

A SWB will driv a whole lot different than your LWB. Before you go crazy talk to a few racers in your area about it.

[JT912]

I would be highly suprised if you could build one for 20K from just a shell.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by ThomasB

Hi,

I am owner of a '70 911E and love the car. A few weeks ago I took it to a driver education program with other colleagues in historic cars and had the time of my life.
The stories of snap oversteer/lift off oversteer had me worried since I first bought the car, but after 9 hours of "open racing" on a wet track I feel extremely comfortable with the car.
The trouble is that I really don’t want to punish this unrestored, rust free 1970 911E survivor so hard.

So I’d like to build a second car for racing/rallye/ice racing purposes. A friend of me would sell me a sound and 1967 SWB shell w/ title for a very good price, almost free.

I am wondering how much I’d have to spend to get the car up and running with —not necessarily period correct — reliable and affordable parts. No interior but a rollcage, bucket seats, etc.

Is this is doable for less than $20k or should I start looking elsewhere ?

Here is a good start for you..

HSR 911 Race Car

[lindbhr]

Would you consider an SC? Cars with some mods are typically available for less than 20K.

[Dantilla]

"How much to build a race car" is as ambiguous as "How big is a fish".

First things first:

If you are going to race, youi must first pick a class, and build the car according to those class rules. with a tight budget, look through the SCCA's General Competition Rules (the GCR), and decide where you want to run. Then we can offer firm costs of what others have spent in that class.

Hope this helps. I had no idea when I attended my first track day that my car would end up with a roll cage and big numbers on the doors. You're going to have a Hoot!

[ThomasB]

Originally Posted by Dantilla

"How much to build a race car" is as ambiguous as "How big is a fish".

Yes, I realize that I wasn’t precise enough when I made the topic. It’s not necessarily going to be a race car for a particular class.

I live in Sweden and we have a lot of historic races and rallies going on here. Some on circuits with the only rules being "bring a car older than 1973 and wear a helmet", others on ice, lots of TSD rallies on public roads etc.

I would like a car to participate in these rallies without having to worry about depreciating value like I would with the '70 E. But the more I research into the SWB direction, the more I realise that my budget is too small.

Money wise it looks like I am much better off buying a completely built and ready to race/rally car like a Escort, Saab 96, Mini, Datsun 240Z, etc.

[joegt3cup]

If you are looking to buy a turn key SWB vintage racer for less than it will cost to build one email me and I will put you in touch with a friend who has one he is willing to sell.

Joe
joegt3cup@att.net

[Jagshund]

You can build a SWB race car for under $20K assuming you're leaning towards stock and have no grease allergies. I recently bought a complete drivetrain for $3K and suspension, etc could probably be procured for under $17K. Now, building a COMPETITIVE one for that price would likely be a bit more difficult.

[Dantilla]

Something else I did- Instead of piecing the car together a little bit at a time, I bought entire parts cars, used what I needed, and sold off the unused parts to further reduce the costs.

Worked great for a non-mechanic like me, but it does require enough space to park a few cars, and it takes time to disassemble things and ship parts to any buyers that are not local.

I am fortunate to be close to John Walker's annual swap meet. Lots of leftover parts were sold there.

[skrufy]

ThomasB-

With the price of the long nose- pre '74- 911s-SWB/LWB- going thru the roof because there just aren't that many good examples left, I wonder if you would be money well ahead to restore the '67, sell it, and then buy a good ready to run track car that someone else has set up? In my experience, someone else has spent a lot of time and money to do the project, gets bored or looses interest, and the car, hotrod, boat, home built aircraft, whatever- then sells for a fraction of what they have invested in the project...... good deal for the buyer. Several friends over here in the SW USA search for Long Nose dry desert cars- no rust- and ship them to customers back in Europe and Japan. Check out the latest prices in Pano, Pelican, and elsewhere- going astronomic..... The later SCs are perhaps a much more reasonable project car... granted, the '67 from your buddy is almost free....

Just 2cents worth of thoughts-

Tim
Alpine, Az.

[Reiver]

$19.95 for one, the second is free but you'll have to pay shipping.....