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The test fit program continues. This morning we took a trip to Ann Arbor, Michigan to test for the 17" BZ prototype on a 964 and a 993. Great facility, very impressive array of Porsches being worked on.
It wasn't a surprise to find that the wheel easily fit over the 91 996 C4's brake calipers: http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3B685336nu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3B682336nu0mrj But what was a surprise was to find that the 993 there was a Twin Turbo with BIG REDS on it. About the Holy Grail of test fit candidates. Oh, and it fit perfectly :) http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...68%3B336nu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3B688336nu0mrj We already know it fits a regular 996 but what 996 has the biggest brakes? I want to see how far up the 911 evolutionary ladder this will go. |
Is there any way to get a flush outer lip? You can tell immediately that it is a replica because of the raised far outside edge.
Also, many of the Fuchs had reinforcements to support the rubber tire valves at high speed. Centripetal force wants to pull the stem out of the rim so it looks like you are forced to run a metal stem. Overall nice wheel though. |
What is the widest Braids 16" possible, maximizing the full inner wheel well for an SC ?
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I've seen the stem supports on some originals. Not sure hor necessary they are bt I've never heard of a problem running without them. I always assumed they were retro-fitable anyway. |
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From my research and a little test fitting something of the order of a 255 can be squeezed in there comfortably at ET15-19. Anything wider than that seems to require fender rolling and camber compromising. I'm not sure if you can find a 255 tire in 16" these days; even the 245/45-16 favored buy 930 owners is a rare bird nowadays, hence the 17" version being developed. You would want a 9" wide wheel for both these sizes though they would probably fit oon an 8" too. Hope that helps. |
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Any up date on the 17" availability and sizes?
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Took delivery of some tires. Not a big deal normally except these are going on the first production set of 17" BZ replica wheels! Yes, they are starting to ship, order from our host :)
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when will the 17"'s be available to purchase from our host in the RSR finish?
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Yeah, I'd love to know when these will be generally more available.
I'm ready to spring for some 17s (7" and 9") with standard black center and standard offsets. |
I asked Pelican to post them a few weeks back but so far they haven't made it. I'll have to give them another prod.
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Thanks anxious to have a set
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I just spoke to the powers that be and they should be up on the site in about a week. Lots of details and data to enter which I am of course helping them with :)
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Hooray!
Take my money! :) |
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So, we'd like to present the very first production 17" BRAID Fuchs replicas:
http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...hhhh5c72ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...3e%3C345ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...e9%3Cf89ot1lsi Built in Spain; proven in Detroit (well, next week they will be) Have a great weekend. |
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I'm assuming "Ooooooooo" is good thing? |
Those look amazing.
Is that photo taken in Windsor, Canada ? ( i am from Detroit ) |
Belle Isle. My favorite view of the city.
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very nice
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With regards to buying these from Pelican they are swamped adding new parts to their catalogue right now but if you call a rep they can order them based on the prices and specs on our website. They will be drop shipped anywhere in the lower 48 in 6-8 weeks for $300. Once we get through the initial backlog of orders they will be 3-4 weeks like the 15" and 16" are.
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Congrats on the product rollout, those are gorgeous.
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Love these in RSR finish. Great work Paul!
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So here we go: the first production 17" BRAID classic wheels, ever!
17x8 and 17x9 with 225 and 255 BFG Rivals. Available from our host. (if you call) http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...37f6%3A9ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...d69c3cg5ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...7f693d7got1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...f4%3A4ghot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...Ch8d%3Ceot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...e6%3Bc3got1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...%3A4fg6got1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...33%3A69eot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...349445e3ot1lsi |
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Any thoughts on when the back log will be cleared up? That's a high quality problem you have there. Glad to hear of the immediate interest.
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Here are a few iPhone snaps I took during a recent photo shoot in Detroit. Proper pictures to follow. Yes, 17" replica wheels!
http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...77%3A6d3ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...5%3A44e7ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...38%3B877ot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...%3Be84fdot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...h56ce76eot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...3A39956eot1lsi http://images1.snapfish.com/23232323...g4%3A26eot1lsi More here: http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/fe/c=snapfish/l=en_US/p/Organizer/AlbumID=16002306013/a=124138880_124138880/s_c=0/s_mvm=SNP/s_ev20=naturalsearch_0105_google/s_se=FDR/s_pt=MMB/s_cmpg=naturalsearch_0105_google#state=%7B%22pl%22 %3A%7B%22uc%22%3A2%2C%22aid%22%3A15341519013%2C%22 vp%22%3A%22g%22%2C%22ss%22%3A198%2C%22sb%22%3A5%7D %2C%22ovm%22%3A%7B%22v%22%3A%22s%22%7D%7D |
Very nice. What are the widths in the pics?
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Seems to be a good bolt on SC or Carrera setup though the front left fender can be tight if lowered. |
Seriously nice wheels. I know they wouldn't "look stock" to someone who knows, but it's close, and I would love to be able to run modern high-performance tires on my narrow body '72.
Any idea if a 17" fitment will work? Seems like 17x7 with the correct offsets should fit, but I looked up the specs on Michelin PSS (for example) and 205/45-15 has tread width >0.5" wider than 205/60-15, which, if that number is accurate, makes me hesitant to just jump in and give it a try. My rear fenders are rolled, but the 215/60-15s I have there now are very tight at the tread edge. There might be room to add some to the offset to move them inboard a little, but there are the fronts to think about also. Looking forward to you getting these out in the wild to see what works! |
Thanks John.
There's some nice performance tires available in 205/50-17. I don't see why the wouldn't fit with the right offset (49?) like a 7R wheel. What offset are you running now? some tire specs: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=P6000&partnum =16WR56000N2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+A%2FS+P0 2+%28H-+or+V-Speed+Rated%29&partnum=06HR5HTRASP02&vehicleSearch =false&fromCompare1=yes http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+S-02+A&partnum=05ZR7S02N4&vehicleSearch=false&fromCo mpare1=yes |
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