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2.0 Litre Engine Transplant into 80 SC

Hi all,

I have a 1980 SC with a broken head stud (that recently developed the dreaded playing cards on spokes noise) + a partially rusted 69E with a running 2.0 litre engine (with webers).

I am considering transplanting the 2.0 litre engine from the 69 into the SC to allow some spring / summer driving while my 17 year old son and I rebuild the SC's engine.

I have searched but have been unable to find any info or advice on transplanting a 2.0 litre into a SC body. Any advice or tips? I assuming that fuel and electrical interfacing will be the main issues.

Also, I should know the answer to this, but will the 2.0 litre engine work with the SC's gearbox? The 2.0 litre engine has a brand new clutch

Thanks and safe motoring!

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Old 05-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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The clutch and SC transmission are not compatible as such. An SC flywheel and clutch might do the trick.
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how about a 76 912 flywheel/clutch combo?? mates up to a 915..
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how about a 76 912 flywheel/clutch combo?? mates up to a 915..
No, it does not. The 923 version of the 912E differs from the 915 in that the mainshaft is splined for the 2.0 clutch. But if his current SC flywheel fits the 2.0 engine it should work. But I am not sure of the bolt pattern & sizes. There WILL be an adapter flywheel available if the stock does not work.
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The 3.0 flywheel is 9 bolt so it won't work.
A 225mm 6-bolt flywheel from a later 2.4-2.7 and the SC PP/clutch might work.
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You need the '70-'77 "flat" flywheel with 6 bolts to attach to the end of your 2.0 crank. Your SC clutch parts will mount to that flywheel.

If your 69 is carbureted you can use a PMO type (or jury rigged) pressure regulation system to supply fuel to your carbs. You'll have to trick the fuel pump relay into running without the electrical signals from the CIS injection. If its an E or S with MFI, you'll need to bring the entire fuel pump/console from your '69.

If its a T, You'll need +12 to your '69 ignition system to get spark. Your tach will not be compatible and you could kill it. If its an E or S with a CD box, you can probably use your SC's ignition system with your 2.0 distributor, but there may need to be some checking and mods since you would be going from the Hall effect induction to points as a signal.

The oil line fitting from the tank to cooler will be different. You could make up an adapter or use the 3.0 cooler on the 2.0 motor. I don't recall if there will be any problem going from the engine to the cooler, but the line goes to a different physical location so may be a problem with length or bends. An adapter may be necessary there too.

All in all, this might not be a practical conversion if you are only going to be using it temporarily.
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Would it be possible to transplant the 69s engine and gearbox ?
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Would it be possible to transplant the 69s engine and gearbox ?
Anything is possible, I could put a bug engine in a 911...just how much custom fab to do the job and is it worth it for the short term.
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To the OP, I think you'd be time and money ahead if you just dropped and fixed the head stud issue on the 3.0L. Drive the 69 in the mean time.
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To the OP, I think you'd be time and money ahead if you just dropped and fixed the head stud issue on the 3.0L. Drive the 69 in the mean time.
Thanks Josh, and all responders - it is indeed looking like more work than anticipated.

The 69E has rusty longitudinals and inner rockers, but is drivable, I might just go with that plan, and drive the 69E this summer



This is my garage before it was finished, and contains some groovy kid furniture! You can see the white 69 in the background, with my red SC up-front - the black 85 is not mine, but spent a winter in the stable keeping the others company!
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Would it be possible to transplant the 69s engine and gearbox ?
Yup - I have put a 901 into a 915 car before.

You have a different speedo drive (mechanical vs electric), you need a different shifter, and different clutch cable. Your throttle linkage is also a bit different but it will work.

This is what I would do if I was you - why waste the summer.
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Yup - I have put a 901 into a 915 car before.

You have a different speedo drive (mechanical vs electric), you need a different shifter, and different clutch cable. Your throttle linkage is also a bit different but it will work.

This is what I would do if I was you - why waste the summer.
Thanks! I agree - see above

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