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Work on the SC has taken up some time.
But now back to the seemingly endless journey or getting new steel into the car. In anticipation of the inner sill and outer floor pan being welded in, I started to modify the 964 outer sill that was kindly given to me by a fellow resto nutter. These are original Porsche parts, which is nice. I won't be doing Barry's level of retro detail, just getting them smooth where the 964 trim mounts. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459246804.jpg Pretty simple. Make a template to fit over the indents. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459246839.jpg Cut out the existing indent. And weld. This is far simpler than making surgical relief cuts with a dremmel and flattening out the indents. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459246872.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459246935.jpg Then check for pinholes and grind flat, with etch primer on the inside. The whole inside will be stripped back to bare steel and etch primed (i do this with all new panels just to be sure they are properly protected) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247117.jpg And the postman brought a package, from a Pelicaner in California. Can't wait to get these on the car. A nice piece of jewellery.....with our exchange rate and shipping costs they cost about the same as jewellery! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247100.jpg Now onto the inner sill. Drilled and stripped before etch primer. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247234.jpg And the inners of the sill have been cleaned, etched and epoxy primered. I hope they last another 50 years + http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247255.jpg |
Now for the fitting and aligning....the longest part of steel work (for me anyway).
Can never have enough clamps. |
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247421.jpg The front and rear patches I made to repair the rot in the ends of the sill now need to line up with the sill. Hmmm. Some persuading required. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247476.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247508.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247531.jpg And then turn up the little MIG to max and start plug welding. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247565.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247584.jpg And it's in. 2.5 years later. Now to clean up the welds in prep for the outer sill, and some seam sealer on the outer floor pan patch. |
Nice and smooth.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247766.jpg Along the top edge, I have alternated, only welding every second plug. The idea is that I'll drill through and weld in the outer sill from the inside. Reason being that the outer sill has a c-section at the top which mates into the vertical and horizontal edge of the door lip, and getting a welding torch in there is tricky. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247874.jpg The strip the underside of the floorpan patch to bare steel and etch prime. The inside was done before I welded it in. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247924.jpg A few gaps to fill but it's strong and reasonably straight (amateur about has its downside) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459247977.jpg New shiny steel is a lovely thing. Then seam seal along the welds on the underside and inside the cabin. Once i have seam welded the rest of the floorpan, it'll get the same treatment. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459248043.jpg Only a few more patches to go.....(31 at last count!) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459248073.jpg When I'm done with the LHD sill, it will have taken 9 individual patches. Which works out to about one every 3 weeks! As they say: "we're not where we want to be but we're a long way from where we were!" And some inspiration: One of the 68 T/R Monte Carlo cars.... flares on a SWB body. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459248193.jpg |
Just found this thread...you rust repair guys are a rare breed.
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Matthew! Its been 3 years now, hows the metal porker looking?
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Come in another few years and there might be a running car on the last page of page 40 something! Cheers. |
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There is now more metal than rust. And a few kilograms of melted MIG wire. The up side of taking so long is that the value of the thing has gone up 300%...with no cds's or cdo's involved! I'll take a few wide shots that show off the whole thing, on the weekend. Don't get too excited though, the big picture is still unimpressive.....even after 10 pages of forum posts. I'll make a brave prediction: on its wheels and in colour* by Christmas. Cheers. *grey primer may well be the final colour. |
Here we go again.
Jack tube support. I was hoping it would be easier 2nd time around, but I've forgotten all the measurements. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614420.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614446.jpg Check for fit and alignment http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614471.jpg Ready to be welded in. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614490.jpg And welded in. Amazing how you can weld perfectly and then when things get just a little tricky, the welder starts playing up. Inconsistent wire speed feed....urgh. Strip everything, clean out the tip, clean with compressed air and reassemble. Not the cleanest welds, but strong. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614593.jpg Inner sill stripped bare, masked where the outer sill will be welded in, and then primed with etch. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614530.jpg TOP TIP:if you are ever inspecting a pre73 car and want to get a sense of what the sills look like inside, behind solid looking paint, shoot some compressed air into the jacking tube. Rusty flakes will come flying out and give you a good sense of how much corrosion there might be. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614734.jpg Primed and ready for the outer sill....and the fun of aligning all the door gaps. This is where short cuts can come back to haunt you. Hopefully it's easier 2nd time around. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459614885.jpg |
A while back when the MIG was down, I made a whole bunch of patches.
This is to replace the rotten (and badly repaired) lhd 1/4 window. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459790875.jpg Some tack welds to hold the shape. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459790813.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459790921.jpg As I've said before, you can never have enough clamps...in as many shapes and sizes. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459790960.jpg And then very very slowly tack weld in place. Taken me a while to learn that with butt welding panels, you can't ever go too slowly. Tap, tap, tapping with a hammer as you go, to make sure everything stays lined-up http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459790984.jpg A piece of flattened copper pipe clamped against the back of the weld is a great help. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791077.jpg Those welds took an hour.... but the upside is that there is barely any warping, even along the edges of the butt join. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791140.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791213.jpg |
The crease lines look okay.
A bit of filler....I mean lead....and it'll be nice and smooth. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791270.jpg The rather lovely transition from the curve behind the door look plate to the hard crease that runs along under the 1/4 window is a bugger. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791330.jpg And after another few hours filling in the weld....and hunting down pinholes, it looks half decent. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791422.jpg The flange on the bottom edge of the 1/4 will need a trim. But it's strong and pretty smooth. Critically, the limits of my shaping and welding are below the height of the surrounding steel, so a thin skim of filler....I mean lead....will be sort that out. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791483.jpg Clean with a wire brush, inside and out, and a coat of etch primer to keep it safe and clean until it's time for filler and primer. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459791623.jpg Another job ticked off the list. |
Some gratuatous shots of the shell.
Been a while since I had a good look at the show thing, as opposed to some dimly lit rotten corner. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792024.jpg This side has been all done. And luckily the butcher who cut out the lhd flare didn't get to this side. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792050.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792103.jpg If both 'flares' where gone then I would do T/R rear flares. But the swb quarters are so delicate it seems a crime to consider flaring them, even just a little to take a 7" wheel. Will have to make a plan to get some 7Rs.....what's the going price for a wife and children? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792124.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792241.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792258.jpg The colour scheme has evolved through the build. I've always been a fan of Ivory white but there is something in here I really like: the grey primer (a touch lighter when sanded and clean), classic satin black, red oxide primer and gold. Not sure where the gold came from but it seems to work together. Getting the ratios right will be the hard bit. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792292.jpg The tail light surrounds will go body colour. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792439.jpg Re the 7R wheels, I traded for three of these Aluminium 15 x 7 replicas a while back. They're not bad - 80s Japanese replicas I think. The plan might be to get them welded with the 7R offset. 5.5 x 15s on the front and 7Rs on the back......might be a very cunning plan. |
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Can't find any markings other than this: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459792676.jpg |
The LHD door is not in good shape.
Pretty much the same as the RHD one I have already done. To be honest, unless it was stripped to bare metal there would have been no way to tell. The secrets these old cars keep.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119053.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119160.jpg Same old trick as the rest of the car: weld a piece over the rotten section, cover with fibreglass and filler, and wait 20 years until some plonker finds it. In my defence, I was expecting the worst. As you grind away you get that distinctive fibreglass smell, and you know you're in for proper trouble. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119193.jpg Saw a car the other day that a chap had bought for a lot of money, well over market value. A '68. As he pulled into the parking, from 10 - 15 feet away, myself and the old grey-beard collector next to me could see the rust bulging out the bottom of the doors. Not showing at the surface but there for certain. We didn't have the heart to tell the excited new owner. "Had a recent full respray" he proudly announced. We knew exactly why. Anyway. Back to my own odyssey. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119464.jpg The benefit of the previous amateur leaving the original steel and pinch seam behind means the profile of the door is still honest. So to aid in making sure the profile stays true when I repair the outer skin, I made a template out of 5mm steel. Will also help form the flange to pinch over the inner frame....I hope. I did the RHD door pinch seam by hand and it was a bugger. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119551.jpg After that diversion, back to the LHD sill. |
Now to finish the lower wheelhouse corner.
The heater tube is rotten, so that needs to be repaired before I can patch the outer frame. Took me a while to figure this trick out... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119811.jpg Weld a handle onto the piece you're trying to weld, when no clamp is up to the job. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119848.jpg Pretty straight forward http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462119985.jpg Luckily I didn't have to cut too high to find solid steel. Compared to most other swb resto's I got off lightly. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462120017.jpg I really need to get a shrinker / stretcher so I can stop cutting relief cuts and start doing it properly! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462120076.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462120125.jpg Solid. One more job off the list. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462120208.jpg Hello there.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462120258.jpg |
Decided to tackle the front slam panel and suspension pan.
First step: weld two braces into the lower pan. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123476.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123536.jpg Then strip and etch prime. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123559.jpg And then the front slam panel. There is no evidence of impact in the front so I'm pretty confident I can get it straight and aligned. Based off a print out of a chassis drawing, I created a simple jig to give me two datum points: - the line of the seal channel at the top of the slam panel, - and the most forward point of the panel. Measurements are from the front suspension bar brace holes, the same hole the octisserie mounts into. So that gives me a position forward and backwards. Spirit level gives me left and right. Measurement from the corner of the trunk to the lip of the channel gives me a second reference point. And then it's the good old fashioned eye and gut feel! The hood lines up nicely, which is a small confidence booster. Not forgetting the lower suspension pan as a guide. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123739.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123949.jpg Then fit and fettle and fit and more fettling. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462123993.jpg And in she goes. Slowly does it, lots of measuring in-between. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124033.jpg Not finished, but it all lines up. Will come back and finish up in the hard-to-reach places once I have the beetle on it's back. Lower seal channel runs snug with the bumper. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124058.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124147.jpg Not as difficult as I thought it would be. |
Here are some more gratuitous shots. Might as well considering the fenders are on.
The edges of the bonnet and the fenders will need work to get the gaps right. And who knows what the final paint scheme will be. Also trying to decide between swb headlights or lwb.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124369.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124438.jpg And some impromtu spray-can photoshop http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124382.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462124413.jpg |
Glad you got that slam tray sorted Matthew! Must still come collect mine from you and take in some inspiration at the same time!
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Looking good Barnes. Lots of progress since my visit.
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" is that a hardtop sitting on the targa? would love to see some shots of the bottom of that."
Hey there, it was a an original steel hood. The targa was too far gone to justify a repair (three years ago!) |
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