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HEDR 06-22-2013 09:32 AM

Project advice: backdate or update (964/911) PS Automobile 911ST
 
I'm new to this site so if this is the wrong forum please forgive me.
My plan. I'm seeking advice on the shortest road to take on recreating
the PS Automobile 911ST shown in photos below.
Does it make any sense to start with a 964 coupe and backdate or to "Hotrod" a 69-73 911? As they begin with a 964 coupe and a 3.2 motor it seems like the right platform to start with. However, the Hood latch support, bumpers and polished window trim can get costly. I intend to keep car so build practicality comes FIRST and cost is SECOND barely... I live on North shore of Massachusetts. Any advice on build would be greatly appreciated. I spoke to Guys @ EPE in Natick they recommended Hotrod a 69-73 car.

Program is to ask questions first then proceed with "The Plan".
What I think I want- please feel free to burst my bubble.
1. Motor output near 275-300hp (emphasis on Torque as hi-speed is 2% of driving)
2. Slate Gray Paint & Black Interior w/ hounds-tooth seats
3. A/C modern performance & efficient
4. Long hood, ST Flares, Polished window trim Chrome Bits & Bobs

I realize "The Plan" will change it's the journey that matters.

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http://25.media.tumblr.com/5c01f6133dcc52e90d88b1de1c364107/tumblr_mev64s9PBd1qjw5gyo1_500.jpg

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1q360qxb21qbetn3o6_500.jpg
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reachme 08-26-2013 07:15 PM

Hey HEDR, have an update for us on this?
How are you planning to user the car? Weekends? Daily driver?

RWebb 08-26-2013 07:31 PM

Yes, it makes a lot of sense - it will never be as light as an early car, but can be as pretty, and will have a stiffer unit body.

The suspension will perform better and the engine will make more power. Of course, you may want a vintage handling feel and a lighter car.

I'd avoid the flares but that is me. Wider tires = more stick, but = less steering feel.

Different horses for different sensory experiences, even on the same course...

there was a guy in nashville (PorscheDoc?) who did this and has a thread on it

Iciclehead 08-26-2013 07:37 PM

Interesting project, similar in intent to my project (the 6 Speed into Carrera thread...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/185692-fitting-6-speed-g50-89-carrera-9.html#post7602553).

I am using an '89 Carrera carcass as the base, moved the AC condenser (993 into the front fender), fitted a 6 Speed which in turn will be mated to a brand new 3.4 litre with PMO throttle bodies, SSI's and a bunch of other stuff. Again the idea is decent torque and cruising as opposed to maximum horsepower.

I too am cost sensitive, I do all my own work and have made decent progress so far including things like removing the sunroof and drip rails, done the early front end (with later valence for the fog lights).

Happy to share experiences and ideas....definitely not for the faint of heart....

Dennis

HEDR 08-26-2013 08:09 PM

Curve Ball 964
 
Wonderful advice from you guys and as life throws you a curve here's where I stand...

I found a car '92 only 40k Miles! C2 Black/ Black 5spd, Sport seats, Ltd Slip Diff, Rear wiper. Cup wheels. I feel like I couldn't pass on such a nice car. Now I don't want to transform such an original & stock car. It's a difficult thing to give up on a dream. I'm just going to keep looking for an higher mile 964 to put under the knife for the ST transformation. I can't get that image of the PS Automobile 964 out of my mind.

Its an embarrassment of riches so I can't complain over delaying the pursuit of this. If anyone has done steel ST rear flares, where do you source them? Thanks for the input and any advice.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377576469.jpg

willcall 01-28-2014 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEDR (Post 7623353)
Wonderful advice from you guys and as life throws you a curve here's where I stand...

I found a car '92 only 40k Miles! C2 Black/ Black 5spd, Sport seats, Ltd Slip Diff, Rear wiper. Cup wheels. I feel like I couldn't pass on such a nice car. Now I don't want to transform such an original & stock car. It's a difficult thing to give up on a dream. I'm just going to keep looking for an higher mile 964 to put under the knife for the ST transformation. I can't get that image of the PS Automobile 964 out of my mind.

Its an embarrassment of riches so I can't complain over delaying the pursuit of this. If anyone has done steel ST rear flares, where do you source them? Thanks for the input and any advice.

TRE Do the flares as well as Restoration Design.
But there are others around especially in Europe.

I too want to do the 964 backdate & have my eye on a C4 for this.
Again, like you and others I am after torque not high end speed (winding mountain roads not a race track).
Good luck.

willcall 01-28-2014 07:17 PM

TRE rear ST flares are about $1,900 a set.
Front about $1,600


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