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Why would owner remove the AC belt??
I am a newbie that's in the process of looking for a sharp looking and solid 911. I have viewed a few online that have pictures of the engine missing the AC belt. What would cause a owner to remove the AC belt?
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seized compressor....
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yep.....my comp was siezed when i bought it and the owner left the belt on, another sign of a siezed comp is belt "shavings/debris" in the corner of the engine bay.
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Be very careful with "conversion" cars too. You have to wonder about how well the aftermarket parts were hung, and what might have prompted the change (ie an accident).
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It may not be seized up. Removing the belt frees up a couple of HP. Reduced friction.
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I removed my AC belt to free up some HP. I didn't actually notice any more HP, but I was told it frees up some.
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When I bought my 90 C2 last year, the A/C belt was missing. I replaced the belt and with a few ounces of freon the A/C works fine.
You may want to have the owner replace the belt to make sure the compressor isn't seized, if you find one you want to buy. Gary |
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Put one on and you'll know. It doesn't make a difference
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One last consideration. I take my a/c belt off before I go to the track with my car...JUST IN CASE I lose the main fan belt. It happened once and I was glad the a/c belt was out of the way when installing (Ouch!) the new (Man that's hot!) fan belt. Saves quite a few minutes; important when you're running between your car and a student's!
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Removing the belt really doesn't free up any more HP. That's because the belt turning the compressor clutch when it's not on really doesn't use any energy. You might feel a slight difference, but I doubt that you would get more performance than simply removing the weight of your spare tire from the trunk...
-Wayne
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I bought a car earlier in the year that had the compressor belt removed. The PO told me that it was to free up HP. I knew damned well that the A/C just didn't work for whatever reason. I didn't care because I removed the whole damned mess two months later. The old compressor can't be rebuilt anymore anyway. I don't believe that removing the belt when the compressor is not engaged would make much of a difference in performance. However, removal of: compressor, evaporator, fan, condensors, dryer/receiver and all hoses made a hell of a difference in the form of about 150 lbs. of weight.
Granted, it depends on the intended use of he vehicle.
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Interesting strategy...
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Hello
Driving the AC belt doesn´t need much power. If you engage the magnet clutch on the compressor you loose power. Removing the belt from a non working system makes aminatince easier and lowers the risk that a neglet AC belt can crack and snap the fanbelt. Also early 911 didn´t had a underpressure cout out device so you gould run the compressor even withot pressure and oil in the system. Grüsse |
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My car had the A/C belt removed when I test drove it, the owner insisted it was for HP savings. When he delivered it, he'd installed a belt and the A/C actually worked!
You never know.-Boyo
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For even more AC information, on my car (89 coupe), the full open sensor in the throttle body shuts off the compressor on hard accelerator. I removed the compressor, hoses and top condensor in my car as will soon remove everything else.
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