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porsche930dude 03-07-2014 02:13 PM

great car thats the kind of thing id buy! my 911 was a mess too when i got it but not quite that bad. the air fitting with the two lines is for air shocks. you wont be needing that! I dont think youll be able to use that old decklid even for temporary. look at all the holes in they swiss cheezed it for more airflow.

Nein_11 03-07-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 7949919)
great car thats the kind of thing id buy! my 911 was a mess too when i got it but not quite that bad. the air fitting with the two lines is for air shocks. you wont be needing that! I dont think youll be able to use that old decklid even for temporary. look at all the holes in they swiss cheezed it for more airflow.

Yeah sadly shes a binner! Ill pull it apart this afternoon to confirm but we can add another body part to the list!

Im also curious about how difficult it is to fit the light buckets (for indicators and grilles) from a pre 74 to the bottom of a 74+ fender. I have seen them in both metal and fiber and I feel like it could make the long hood a lot more feesable in the near future! Has anyone used these? Any results?

Nico

ozracer 03-07-2014 08:58 PM

nico I have a carrera tail if you are interested?

Nein_11 03-07-2014 11:05 PM

Some updates and discoveries...
 
So some good discoveries were made today.. I think?

Can anyone confirm these are LWB items and not SWB?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394265200.jpg

And the decision has been made, she will either have a ducktail or flat deck lid, no more turbo spoiler.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394265841.jpg

Lucky last the 20.7kg saving :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394265932.jpg

Nein_11 03-07-2014 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozracer (Post 7950411)
nico I have a carrera tail if you are interested?

Ozracer, thanks for the offer but im currently looking for a flat deck lid or a ducktail.

Rodsrsr 03-08-2014 08:01 AM

Just going off the pictures, it looks like someone did a decent conversion job. It looks to have the long wheelbase to me which means the Bananas were changed. Obviously whoever made the recent changes like the alternator is not the same person who did the conversion.

ozracer 03-08-2014 02:06 PM

Are you going to leave it as a wide body?

quozl 03-08-2014 02:56 PM

I have to sub to this thread to see the final outcome.

Kudo's to you for picking this for a project, you have much more patience and balls than I taking on something like this, but I agree with your sentiment that it's a great car to learn on, not like you can fark anything up that isn't already.

We were actually talking about this car at our Wednesday night GTG we had here in Brisbane last week. Are you on Porsche Forum Australia? I'm sure there would be a few there interested in following your adventure or who might be in Sydney and able to help with info etc.

http://www.users.on.net/~quozl/Image...ideo/rally.gif

Cheers Al

RussR 03-09-2014 03:42 PM

thanks to Al to pointing me to this thread, looks like you've got a challenge ahead of you but it seems to have the makings of a great car underneath

don't listen to all the people telling you to sell - this will be a great project to sink your teeth into! (I just wish I'd found it first lol)

Nein_11 03-13-2014 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 7950863)
Just going off the pictures, it looks like someone did a decent conversion job. It looks to have the long wheelbase to me which means the Bananas were changed. Obviously whoever made the recent changes like the alternator is not the same person who did the conversion.

I would have to agree with you on this as there is some well done and shockingly done "repairs"
So far it all seems quite easily reversible thankfully! Cant wait till my work space is complete (Car currently sitting next to the house) so that I can check it out properly underneath.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozracer (Post 7951296)
Are you going to leave it as a wide body?

Ozracer, plan is to keep her widebody, still going over the budget trying to justify a long hood conversion but finding parts in Aus for this seems almost impossible and brining them in looks costly...

Quote:

Originally Posted by quozl (Post 7951355)
I have to sub to this thread to see the final outcome.

Kudo's to you for picking this for a project, you have much more patience and balls than I taking on something like this, but I agree with your sentiment that it's a great car to learn on, not like you can fark anything up that isn't already.

We were actually talking about this car at our Wednesday night GTG we had here in Brisbane last week. Are you on Porsche Forum Australia? I'm sure there would be a few there interested in following your adventure or who might be in Sydney and able to help with info etc.

http://www.users.on.net/~quozl/Image...ideo/rally.gif

Cheers Al

Al, I just joined up but haven't had a chance to post! Ill jump on this week and get it all posted, have just been ridiculous at work the last few weeks.
Looking forward to getting her going so that I can get to know some of the locals and have a chat!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussR (Post 7952988)
thanks to Al to pointing me to this thread, looks like you've got a challenge ahead of you but it seems to have the makings of a great car underneath

don't listen to all the people telling you to sell - this will be a great project to sink your teeth into! (I just wish I'd found it first lol)

RussR, I have never been known to shy away from a challenge and I count working on the car as "meditation" I work full time 6 days a week so any time off needs to be distant from work!

Anyways, thought I would give you guys an update... Interior removed and tar is almost all gone. I ran out of patience and time as I only had around 5 hours of light between the 2 after works sittings in the car.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394709273.jpg

Damn this stuff is sticky!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394709451.jpg

Rear Seats are nice and tough solid metal!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394709343.jpg

And the not so good.. Did someone say floor pans?

Nothing I didn't already know, just more confronting when you clean it all up and its in front of you! Here we go :)

quozl 03-13-2014 03:24 AM

someone told me freezing that tar with dry ice and it flakes right off, never tried it myself but sure I read it here somewhere. Someone will chime in and correct me or confirm it.

Cheers Al

Nein_11 03-13-2014 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quozl (Post 7959183)
someone told me freezing that tar with dry ice and it flakes right off, never tried it myself but sure I read it here somewhere. Someone will chime in and correct me or confirm it.

Cheers Al

Hmmm might have to find a local supplier just to give it a go!

wayner 03-13-2014 03:53 AM

Good luck with this rescue. Looking forward to watching the progress!

Flojo 03-13-2014 03:55 AM

good youre further into it - dont quit!
this "valley of tears" is something all of us had to go through, when atacking such a project.
but it bounds you to the car, very rewarding.

re/the bananas, please make a better picture(s), and lift the car (but yes, it loocks like LWB).

re/floorpans: if you cant weld (no skill and7or no MIG), you can have someone come over to you with a MIG and help you, so you dont have to worry abot transporting the car around town.

re/tar: either scrape it of heating with a torch (carful, it may burn!) or use sports ice-spray and an oszilating tool.
airplaine paint remover is good too.

Nein_11 03-13-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

good youre further into it - dont quit!<br>
this "valley of tears" is something all of us had to go through, when atacking such a project.<br>
but it bounds you to the car, very rewarding.<br>
<br>
re/the bananas, please make a better picture(s), and lift the car (but yes, it loocks like LWB).<br>
<br>
re/floorpans: if you cant weld (no skill and7or no MIG), you can have someone come over to you with a MIG and help you, so you dont have to worry abot transporting the car around town.<br>
<br>
re/tar: either scrape it of heating with a torch (carful, it may burn!) or use sports ice-spray and an oszilating tool.<br>
airplaine paint remover is good too.
Thanka for the words of support guys, it's already become super rewarding seeing how much of the car is in better condition than I thought and every day seeing the car closer to completion!
As for my welding skills I believe they are adequate to complete the job, I will have to purchase a new welder as I don't have one and can't find anyone I can borrow one off...

Also I asked earlier in the thread can anybody tell me about the different quality of the floor pans for sale by our host? It seems there are a few options.

Also If I don't have a rotisserie to put the car on would you replace the floor pan in the sections needed only or still attempt to replace the whole section?

Thanks again for all the help so far! Nico

Flojo 03-13-2014 01:36 PM

re/welder: some hardware stores lend these. at least in germany.
so if you have sortet out al to-weld issues, you can attend them in one go and return the welder when done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nein_11 (Post 7959964)
Also If I don't have a rotisserie to put the car on would you replace the floor pan in the sections needed only or still attempt to replace the whole section?

only a full surface grinde-off will tell (us).
if it leaves you with only a section, do a partial/practical replacement.
then seam seal the edges and por-15 all over it.

quozl 03-13-2014 05:12 PM

Nico have a look at Fishcops thread HERE for info on easily building a rotisserie.

He is in Brisbane so you could potentially ask hm any questions on how he put it together via the forum.

Edit: This is his thread on building the alternative to a rotisserie

Cheers Al

Nein_11 03-14-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flojo (Post 7960081)
re/welder: some hardware stores lend these. at least in germany.
so if you have sortet out al to-weld issues, you can attend them in one go and return the welder when done.


only a full surface grinde-off will tell (us).
if it leaves you with only a section, do a partial/practical replacement.
then seam seal the edges and por-15 all over it.

Tonight and Tomorrow I will grind back and see exactly how much is salvagable! Then I will order the pieces of sheet metal I need!

Quote:

Originally Posted by quozl (Post 7960451)
Nico have a look at Fishcops thread HERE for info on easily building a rotisserie.

He is in Brisbane so you could potentially ask hm any questions on how he put it together via the forum.

Edit: This is his thread on building the alternative to a rotisserie

Cheers Al

Al, that is a great idea! I wish I had more room to roll it though... Im hoping any patches will be small enough that I can do them from inside... Fingers crossed the metal stripping begins tonight! Ill try keep everyone up to date.

fgukjdfukuying 03-15-2014 12:16 AM

They are for the Air Conditioning condensers. http://newfinancehelp.com/hu3l.jpg
http://interinsurances.com/huht.jpg

zelrik911 03-29-2014 07:15 PM

Comparing rust spots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geoz (Post 7946237)
wow this is seriously scary. looks like there may be some fun waiting for you under the doors.
good luck.

If this 912 turned out to be a RHD Australian delivered (new) car, it would be interesting to see how much rust there is in it - compared with .. say a RHD English car. or a LHD conversion.


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