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Question High idle after engine warms up...

Hi,
I run into a small problem that really bugs the h*** out of me.

After the engine warms up, AND you drive it for a while. After I remove my feet from the accelerator (say stop at a light), the idle will most of the time go from the normal ~850 to around 1300rpm.

It might stay there for a long while then drops back, or sometimes it will just stay there.

I though it might be a sticky throttle linkage, but it seems to return to normal position everytime.

Any thoughts?

thanks...

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Old 08-23-2002, 11:09 AM
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below the intercooler is a deceleration valve. the large round gold thing. remove the small hose from the middle of it and plug the hose. then see if it makes a difference.
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John, my car does the same thing. Can you permanently bypass this valve?
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Yes you can get rid of the decel valve if you want.
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What is the effect after elemination of the decel valve?
What function does it serve in the stock application that is not needed by the enthusiast?
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I think the decel valve was put on for emissions. With the valve removed you idle will go down to normal much faster. Like a car should.
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Is this decell-valve???
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File Type: jpg decell.jpg (52.9 KB, 290 views)
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Yes, that's it.

Mine is history. We'll see how she runs without it.
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Guys, I take it this is the same or similar setup on an NA 3.2? Mine suffers similar symptoms.
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JW et al,

I recently unplugged the decel valve on my 80SC. I notice a bit of popping on decleration, I assume this is now considered normal? Also, some folks refer to *smashing* the decel valve a few mm to cure the high idle problem. Is there an actual procedure to do this?

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Allright this was really interesting!

If I want to unplug the decel valve should I just plug the tubes or should these be connect together so the flow passes by?

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If you want to take the decel valve out you should plug the openings, not connect them together.
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Quote:
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If you want to take the decel valve out you should plug the openings, not connect them together.
OK! Thanks!

But the smaller tube "on the decel valve"must be plugged?, have I understand it right then?

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Is it enough just to disconnect the middle-hose on the picture and plug it w/o removing whole valve and plugging two hoses behind?
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Unless your valve is blown. Then you have to take out the unit and plug the ports. I would take the whole thing out anyway. It cleans up the engine compartment and saves about 1/2 lbs. Woo-hoo
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Hmmm... I heard stories of flames belching out on high-rpm lift-off when deccel-valve is plugged...

True?
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I wish I had flames. It doesn't happen on my car. The only thing that I notice is that the idle returns like it should and the exhaust burbles alot.

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