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Pagid Orange - What are the benefits?

Hi All,

I'm thinking about getting some Pagid Orange brake pads and was wondering if any of you guys have tried them? If so what sort of braking performance gains have you noticed (if any!)? My pads are due for a change but I thought I'd check to see if its worth the extra ££'s for the pagids.

At the moment I use my car just for road use, but I'm determined to do a couple of track days next year!!

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Pagids are a great pad and last quite a while. Known to be a bit harder on Rotor's. I've been using them for 2 years now in the racecar, and put them on the street car for track days..

Thing is, unless you plan on only putting them in on track days, go with another pad. They don't work well AT ALL when cold, and they'll likely squeek like the dickens most of the time.
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For street use, I and a number of others on this board use Metal Master pads. The have good stopping power, don't squeel, and don't leave much brake dust on your wheels. You can find the ones for you 911 here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/911M/por_911M_brakes_main.htm
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Chris is right. Pagid Oranges are kind of a loopy choice for a street car. Great hot, loud and not-so-great cold.
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Got to bed them in right too.....one day at Willow I had them clump up a bit. Felt like the rotor was warped. Once they cooled and the pad material sloughed off they were fine.

Kinda scary going into Turn 9 with pulsing brakes....
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I also run Pagid orange on my mostly street `87 Carrera. I changed to them after I roasted and crumbled a set of Porterfield R4S. I've had them on my car for a couple of years and I don't agree with the statement they don't work well unless warm/hot. I don't experience that at all. That was very true with the Porterfields. Also Pagid orange aren't that noisy either. Just use an anti-squeal pad and bed them in properly.

Just another point of view, mine.
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How about the pagid blues? Aren't they more of a street compound?

Who out there is using them?
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I didn't like the pagid oranges on the street in my SC. It seemed the fronts locked easily in the wet, much more so than stock pads, and I didn't get more pad life on the track. However, at DE events they were awesome, and got better when hot. Only used 2 sets.
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I agree with jwill911. I have the oranges on my 87 mostly street car and love them.
I've never used the blues put heard from people who have that for everyday driving, they wear out quickly.
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For street use the Pagid orange doesn't make sense for all the reasons everyone listed. I use the RS-4-2 blue on the street. They are great for that purpose but expensive. I would advise Axxis metal masters as an almost perfect street pad, non- dusting and cheap yet w/ good friction characteristics.

There is also a new dark blue RS4-2-1 slotted between the old RS-4-2 and the orange. I will probably try that next for a dual purpose pad.

Here's a link w/ descriptions

Pagid info

and here

More Pagid Info

You will need to scrooll through some of the links on the last one.
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I use them on the street and track. Once you get them warm, they're like the Hand of God, but after a few days of stop-and-go traffic, they squeal like a pig, boy. I solve that by practicing my trail-braking on off-ramps
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Does Pelican sell the oranges for an 86 Turbo? I can't find them online.
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I used stock pads for several years on the track and thought they worked great. Then I tried the Pagid Oranges... I experienced no fade and was able to stop much harder / quicker. However, they are not nearly as good when cold, so be careful on the street. If you drive very much on the street, I would just change them when you get to the track - they're also pretty expensive compared to stock.
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Just did my morning reveiw of ebay! front metal masters
$12.95 and rears $9.95 from a guy in canada. Thats cheaper tham the wifes civic.

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I use EBC 'Green stuff' pads. Not too aggresive so they work well for street use & don't take long to heat up. Definately way better than stock Porsche. More aggresive red stuff pads are available too for increased track time.
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