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I would just do gears and leave the 8:31 alone, the same gearing can be accomplished and it is much stronger. William Knight
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Great advice knightrace. Btw if you want to go fast (Ricky bobby style) have knightrace build you a turbo motor!
Now back to reality. Making horsepower on a n/a motor is expensive and typically there are a lot of comprimises - drivability reliability service w replacement parts a/c etc. Since you are on a budget loosing weight is free horsepower. With a street driven car you can loose at least 300 pounds and still have a car that's streetable. A 300 lbs loss is the equivalent to an extra 30-40 horsepower. The car will handle better brake better less wear and tear on the transaxle, etc. In short if you do a mild rebuild in the 3.2 (cams chip exhaust) and a few upgrades for durability like rod bolts and studs - and loose 300 or so lbs you will have a beast of a car and have the reliability of a stock car and have $$$ left over. |
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I already have a 7:31, outpulls higher hp cars up to 100. |
If all your after is 40 h.p. 46mm pmo's, SSI's and a good sport muffler will get you very close +/- (according to Bruce Anderson's book) without doing anything else. You might get more if you went to headers.
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I probably already have +20hp as I have headers, megaphones and a custom tune (according to Steve Wong's dyno charts). I need ~30hp more so I figure from my tired 30yr old motor, I can do a slightly modded build, either 10.3:1 Euro Ps&Cs, cams or 3.4L and with good exhaust and tune, I should get 250-260 easily. My buddy who did this got 261 hp after dyno tuning by Behe, he started at 225 before tuning, picked up 35hp on the dyno. I want to do this for single-plug Motronic motor to keep the costs down, my labor is free. |
Unless your going to a race motor, I don't see the advantage of 10:1 p&c's, based on the h.p. your after. I would think you'll need to run at least 100 octane race gas, and needing to twin plug. The reason I mentioned my 3.4 was I'm using 9.5:1 p&c's, using race gas at the track and pump for the street, and getting 325 c.h.p.
It would also seem that sticking to the motronic is still going to limit your h.p. regardless of the internal mods. I ran 46 pmo's on my internally stock 3.2 for the past 6 yrs with no issues. I suggested going to pmo's because it would free up some more h.p. without going into the motor. Not to mention you'll never know what you'll run across when you do go into the motor. |
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I had a good time with a 3.4 build - I did not do it myself, but it came out to under $10 grand all in. I had over-revved and dinged an exhaust valve, and she needed the valve guides done anyway, so marginally I was out even less cash.
Ended up with Mahle 10:1s, 964 cams, and the obligatory SW chip. Plus, the purist in me likes the fact that a 3.4 is more of a reversible mod than selling your engine and replacing with a 3.6. I STILL haven't done my final dial-in on the dyno, because a) I ran out of money and b) I've been screwing with the exhaust ever since. I need to bite the bullet, ask Ben at M&K to build me a slightly less raucous muffler, then finalize it. Fresh off the build, with the restrictive stock muffler AND CAT, she was pulling 208 at the wheels, so 245 or so at the crank. If I ran it now, I'd probably be over 250, and with a proper chip, hopefully closer to 260. Pelican sucks: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/229220-you-all-suck.html Good to know: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/229225-3-2-3-4-what-else.html First dyno run: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/231712-first-dyno-run-3-4-a.html |
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Sounds like it was worth it. Thanks for the links, when I did a search, those did not show up. |
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