Engine drop ques: Why remove clutch lever?

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

Well I'm basically ready to drop the engine, only thing left is to remove the clutch ever.. Question is, whhy must this be done..

I'm sure this will turn out to be a dumb question once I see it, but everything else I had to remove made sense...

Keep in mind, 2 years ago, the most ambitious auto maintenance task I took on was an oil change and brake pad replacement... However due to this board and watching it done many times at a friends shop, I feel confident (meaning I'll really muff something up

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PORSHIN · 09-29-2002, 12:00 PM

I understand why you ask that question. It won't need to be off until you take the engine and trans. apart, but, it's a lot easier to remove with the engine in the car than it is with the engine on the floor or a jack etc.. The reason is, the release fork won't swing far enough to let go of the release bearing with the lever on.
Rob

Doug Zielke · 09-29-2002, 01:21 PM

With my own motor drop just around the corner, I'd wondered about that too. Thanks for the explanation, Porshin.

cary · 09-29-2002, 01:49 PM

I did it because JW said so. ( years of experience )

Having dropped mine twice. I would think that you stand a good chance of bending it up.
1. By chance, when you set the engine / gear box down, you set it down right on the arm.
2. Or the engine / gear box falls off the jack when moving it.

My .02c for this afternoon.

gustaf · 09-30-2002, 07:34 AM

FWIW, the only one that NEEDS to come off is the shorter arm. The longer one which is attached to the helper spring (horse-shoe shaped spring) can stay on.

-Dave

kpfoten · 04-20-2003, 06:48 PM

Darn! I took the shorter arm off but couldn't get the longer one off for the life of me. Is there an easy way to do this? Looks like there's a pin or something in the area where the larger arm attaches to the shaft. Do I need to punch this out to remove the larger shaft? The helper spring came off its perch. Can I put this back on without having to remove the long arm?

Thanks

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

I believe that John Walker also recommends keeping the tranny in the car...

-Wayne

TimT · 04-20-2003, 07:28 PM

This thread is a bit confusing

which engine drop in a 911 do you leave the tranny in the car?

very few..

The tranny would need some support

Maybe I am missing something

Jim Sims · 04-20-2003, 07:32 PM

kpfoten, There is a round pin securing the large lever for the years 1975 through early calendar year 1979 so the arm on your clutch release should have the pin. Get a pin punch and carefully drive it out if you need to remove the longer arm. Cheers, Jim

kpfoten · 04-20-2003, 07:39 PM

Thanks!

stormcrow · stormcrow's Garage

Chris,

When I did my engine removal, I removed the tranny/engine together and didn't bother removing the clutch lever. Make sure everything is disconnected when you start so nothing gets damaged.

I used two floor jacks - one under the enging (at oil drain plug with a 2x4 softner) and the other on the tranny support. Lower the engine end first making sure that the gear shift lever in the tunnel for the tranny doesn't bind the tranny shaft.

Keep the engine balanced as you lower it and for added security, place engine stands on both sides of the jack under the engine just in case the engine decided to lean to one side or the other. Lower them as you lower the jack.

I did the removal by myself so I made sure there was added security in case the engine went off balance. Place some 4x4's down on the floor for the engine to rest on after it is out. Make sure they are high enough so that you can remove the flooor jack. Once the engine was removed, I placed it on a furniture dolly and rolled it out from under the car.

Steve

"A Porsche does more then just go fast in a straight line"

BGCarrera32 · 04-21-2003, 05:15 AM

Well, for what its worth, I built a quick custom engine "dolly" for mine, and spaced it off the floor such that an ATV jack that I picked up at Sears can roll right underneath it. Very stable, really slick. I got the casters for my dolly for free and floated about $120 for the jack. Keeps your regular jack free to help lift the car any extra amount necessary too.

I pulled my clutch arm off as it was accessable and probably easier to do while the engine was still in the car.

BGCarrera32 · 04-21-2003, 05:16 AM

Here it is...

kpfoten · 04-21-2003, 08:29 PM

That looks great! Would you mind sending us all dimensions so we can build our own?

kpfoten · 04-21-2003, 08:31 PM

Hey Jim,

Any idea if this pin can be drilled out? I tried a punch and it didn't seem to do any good. Fortunately, I used a lever and got the spring back on its perch and in the right orientation. However, in the future I imagine that the spring may need replacing.

Thanks for the info,