eurometrix valve and timing tool

[47silver]

i borrowed this photo from bflo320i, it shows a eurometrix tool.
does anyone have directions on how to mount it and use it?

[TimT]

I would bet the piece marked "eurometrix" slips over one of the valve cover studs then align it so you can mount the dial gauge on the other end with the plunger over the edge of the valve keeper...

Adjust the the plunger from the dial gauge to bear on the edge of the valve spring keeper, zero the gauge while engine is at TDC and do what you have to do

[TimT]

Looking at the picture again... maybe the end opposite the "eurometrix" goes over the stud... and the dial gauge goes on the other end..

[David E. Clark]

Look at this thread: Dial indicator valve adjustment method explained

This picture shows how to connect the gauge:

[47silver]

he had a note that it was used for cam timing too, would that be possible?
in the tools he sent were some cam pin screw tools and some type of jacks for the tensioners.

[john walker's workshop]

use a longer pin to contact the top edge of the spring retainer for cam timing.

[David E. Clark]

Originally Posted by 47silver

he had a note that it was used for cam timing too, would that be possible? ...

Project 15 in our host's 101 Projects book explains how this is done.

Here is a link to the article from the tech articles section of this site but you should really pick up a copy of the book. It's quite useful!

[47silver]

Thanks all for the advice.
I do have wayne's books (101 and rebuilding) but the photo show a different gage holder.

So if i set this device up as shown with a longer extension then I can measure the valve timing too?
I feel lucky as I was only interested in purchasing the dial indicator (made in germany) and the bag of goodies included this tool, tensioner screw jacks, and cam pin tools.

[David E. Clark]

You need the "Z Block" holder and extension pin to reach the cam.

Pelican sells this here .

If you want to make your own "Z Block", this thread has all the measurements you'll need and a good picture of the Gauge and Z Block attached. You'll still need the extension but you can get various sizes at places like JEGS and Summit Racing. It will be MUCH easier to buy the set from Pelican but you won't have the satisfaction of doing it yourself!

['78 SC]

Here is how it looks in place for checking valve adjustment.



The indicator tip needs to bear on a smooth, flat area to get a good measurement when moving the rocker up/down. I use this to final check the setting.

[47silver]

perfect i cant wait to use it.

[T77911S]

now how are you going to adjust the valve.

looks to be waaaay more trouble than itis worth....just use a feeler gauge.

its main use is for setting cam timing.

[Flat6pac]

Feeler guage is only as good as the operator, this easily swings out of the way to allow adjustment. Use the guage in conjuction with the fact that you have a 1mm thread pitch, setting valves is a walk in the park.
This is one of the first tools I ever bought after buying my angled feeler guage which, 34 years later just sits in the tool box with the original blade.
I have worn several of the units out over the years, now I have the Stompski unit.

Bruce

[47silver]

can you use that tool while the motor is in the car? looks like a great device.

[Flat6pac]

Yes, but it's tight by the cat.
Bruce

[boyt911sc]

Originally Posted by 47silver

can you use that tool while the motor is in the car? looks like a great device.

There is not enough space to install the dial gauge kit on cylinders #1 & #4 in situ. The engine has racing headers and you could imagine if you have the factory catalytic converter installed. Even with a partial drop, it was quite very difficult to get it in place. Tools like this one is best used with the engine on an engine test stand.

Tony

['78 SC]

The photo above (in post #10) was taken with the engine out of the car. I have used the tool with the engine in the car, but it has no A/C, backdated heater ducting and SSIs (no catalytic converter).

[47silver]

that starret gauge is first class..
do you press in the rocker, zero the gauge then adjust?

['78 SC]

The gauge is just to double check. After setting the clearance (using your favorite method), attach the holder and indicator. Wiggle the rocker up and down and read the movement on the gauge. That's it.

Just to echo Tony and Bruce, this is going to be difficult to impossible to do with a stock engine still in the car. Depends on how much stuff in is the way (AC, heater ducts, catalytic convert, etc.). YMMV.

If I adjusted valves on a daily basis, maybe I would develop the right feel to set them using just the feeler gauge. Until then, I'll check the clearances with the dial indicator. Actually, I also measure and record the clearance before adjusting each valve.

At the risk of going off topic, here's another crutch I use:

Yep, on the floor below the rear bumper. I'm easily distracted.