6 Piston ReMan Calipers for $170 the answer to our BBK prayers?

Ds1 · 10-09-2014, 08:08 PM

As I have been pondering what brakes to use for my car when it is 2300lbs and 400hp, I was searching eBay for Cayenne 6 pot calipers when I found these...

Brand new. Looks to be Brembo styled. 6 piston and apparently made for the Cayenne. GoingSuperFast already offeres adapters and rotors for the Cayenne calipers for a narrow body car under 17" tires.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=151423484356

So what do you think? Too good to be true? Who's wants to try first

IROC · IROC's Garage

What size rotors?

Ds1 · 10-10-2014, 06:04 AM

I can't remember exactly. I think 350mm? Whatever the Cayenne spec is from 04-06.

gtc · gtc's Garage

Might be worth a shot. However, I've tried buying reman Brembos off ebay at least three times, and every time they either send me a random cast iron floating caliper, or they tell me that their inventory count was incorrect and they don't have the correct caliper in stock.

Ds1 · 10-10-2014, 08:19 AM

That's funny. If I could confirm the part numbers I would give it a try. I mean, if I can get 6 pot front brakes for $600 including rotors and whatever then heck yeah. Has anyone on here had success using Cayenne calipers before? Are they super heavy?

Ds1 · 10-10-2014, 08:30 AM

Oh man, look at this! http://www.*********.com/gbproducts/DC/138-05238634.html?utm_content=DN&utm_term=2003-2006%2C+2008-2010+Porsche+Cayenne+Brake+Caliper+A1+Cardone+Fron t+Left+03-06%2C+08-10+Porsche+Brake+Caliper+2004&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ff&utm_campaign=*********+Google+Base&gclid=Cj0KEQjwh96hBRCnsefbvZrKrpcBEiQAF7oMdC9SltE5 8bobuc8gJC7OC2Ee9en50lxgzjjCfUxfJaoaAvt58P8HAQ

gtc · gtc's Garage

Try it and let us know.

TheSt|G · 10-10-2014, 10:38 AM

You get what you pay for.

KTL · 10-10-2014, 11:41 AM

350mm front discs + 6 piston calipers is WAY too much front brake for the light 911, even if it has 400hp. Its basically like putting GT3 front brakes on the car. The only way they'd be beneficial is for road racing where you're generating lots of heat lap after lap.

And wait til you see the cost of the brake pads. Not to mention what wheels would you use to fit over those gigantico calipers?

Ds1 · 10-12-2014, 10:07 AM

I already have 17's, and these are made to fit under the OEM Porsche Cayenne V6 wheels that are 17's.

What would your suggestion be for brakes that could stop very well but not have all the bad things like you talked about? I know less weight means you don't need as big of brakes but with a car that will be sub 4 second 0-60 its gotta have some serious meat.

James Brown · James Brown's Garage

these are a hot item on audis. they bolt right up and use a mercedes or volvo rotor. There are several tuner shops that make there own 2 piece rotor to match. cheap BBK for sure. Might do this on my allroad, it's 4200 lbs.

Ds1 · 10-13-2014, 06:54 AM

I saw PCCB's on an Allroad yesterday. Needless to say, they are SWEET. Way too big for a 911 though.

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these are a hot item on audis. they bolt right up and use a mercedes or volvo rotor. There are several tuner shops that make there own 2 piece rotor to match. cheap BBK for sure. Might do this on my allroad, it's 4200 lbs.

KTL · 10-13-2014, 07:10 AM

I suspect the rotor offset will make them difficult to fit on the 911 front suspension. Most likely have to get a custom hub that is machined on the OD to slip the rotor over it.

The calipers are so big that the wheel will need some clearance between the back side of the wheel center and the wheel mounting surface. So it's not the wheel diameter that is necessarily the problem. It's the width of the caliper and how it projects toward the wheel spokes.

Honestly for a street car stock brakes are very good. Sure they're small but they've got a lot of power and enough heat mass for an occasional blast to fast speeds. Its when you keep on hitting those high speeds over and over again, braking each time, is when you need more brake mass.

If you want bigger brakes that are not a ton of money, but certainly not cheap, get a set of 993 front brakes and adapt them this way My 993 big brake upgrade on the SC

Clay.0 · 10-13-2014, 07:23 AM

I have bought Cardone re-manufactured calipers before and there were no issues. I got boxster non-s 4-pots that i fit to my VW from ********.com

******** has the calipers you're looking at for $99+$45 core = $145. After shipping it's probably a wash though.

Ds1 · 10-13-2014, 08:48 AM

Man, all these brake upgrades can get complex and expensive fast. I do like the 993 brakes above as it does not need custom rotors like most do, but then it needs a custom hub...

Turns out my friend is the regional distributer for Cardone. Not only that, the make OE 993tt calipers for like $90... I don't think I'm anywhere close enough to deciding what to do yet, but it will be likely I use a Cardone caliper. Will report back!

jager911 · 10-13-2014, 10:09 AM

I have a friend who tried the Boxster calipers, then aftermarket Brembos, then he finally got 930 brakes which work very well with a 300+hp 3.6L 911.
I went with a deal I found on 993TT, certainly a lot more brakes than I need but it works especially for severe track use.

Ds1 · 10-13-2014, 10:11 AM

Do you know why he ditched both the boxster and Brembo brakes? I've heard the brembos are very heavy (and expensive!).

I've also heard the 996/ Boxster S brakes from RSR are very good but not sure if they would be enough for the power/weight.

jager911 · 10-13-2014, 11:21 AM

I mis-spoke, it was a "Boxer" kit sold by someone I think derived from Wilwood calipers, didn't work well for 2 of my buddies. I believe using stock Boxster calipers doesn't gain much heat sink as you're limited by rotor size. His next trial was Brembo GTP kit, that didn't work too well either. There was a Ferrari F50 rear caliper throw in the mix, with outrageous pad prices and pads that were too thick that had to be ground down. His problems ended when he went with factory 930 brakes.

My point is do it once and install Porsche-spec brakes, either matched 993, 993TT or 930 and it will work. Do a search, Bill Verburg has covered most of the brake options in other threads.

Ds1 · 10-13-2014, 12:29 PM

Thanks for the info, I hear ya! My issue matinence. I don't want to have to get custom machine rotors every time I need a brake job. Custom hubs aren't exactly ideal either.

KTL · 10-13-2014, 12:43 PM

Get a set of 993 front calipers (around $400 used or give Cardone a try), some adapters from Patrick MS or Road & Race Inc. ($200), some Wilwood HD 309x32mm front rotors with 8 x 7.00" mounting circle ($130 each- I can set you up with them) and some rotor hats from Clint at Rebel Racing Products ($130/set). Need some M12 bolts to mount the calipers to the struts and also some quality 5/16 or M8 nuts & bolts to attach the hats to the rotors. It will all bolt right on and no figuring anything out. 993 front pads are a bit expensive because they're big.

Rear calipers are not as bolt-on since it's a bit harder to get larger diameter rotors in back w/out modifying calipers.