Cera Tec by Liqui Moly

[Alexm930]

Has anyone ever had any experience with this product?

LIQUI MOLY - Motor Oils, Additives, Car Care - Products - Cera Tec


I was never one to use additives but a lot of good things have been written about this.

[sundevil64]

Reminds me of Slick-50, but a little more classy with the accent.

[ASD]

My brother is an Industrial engineer,,,did a study on "Slick 50"... it did nothing..

[Reiver]

Originally Posted by ASD

My brother is an Industrial engineer,,,did a study on "Slick 50"... it did nothing..

Actually it made a few people very wealthy...not only did it do 'nothing' (S 50) it could do harm.

[GH85Carrera]

Year ago we had a great speaker from a major oil company put it plainly. If there was ANY possible additive that would make "our" brand of oil clearly better that the competitors we would blend it right into the oil. There have been hundreds of oil additive companies from STP to Slick-50 and none of them really do anything but drain your wallet.

[ASD]

I attended a local Porsche club sponsored oil seminar with guys from Pennzoil. Very interesting stuff.

[Reiver]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Year ago we had a great speaker from a major oil company put it plainly. If there was ANY possible additive that would make "our" brand of oil clearly better that the competitors we would blend it right into the oil. There have been hundreds of oil additive companies from STP to Slick-50 and none of them really do anything but drain your wallet.

Oil additives no...some fuel additives yes as fuel is being federally mandated and 'messed' with.

[oliver88]

Liqui-Moly MoS2 and Ceratec are very good products if you want to use an additive. Want is different than need. Ceratec will quiet an engine down, sometimes significantly. We have used it and MoS2 Liqui-Moly additives in road and race cars. I have not done a huge amount of UOA's with the additive in use though. Many discussions on Bobistheoilguy.com...pretty favorable opinions. Most additives are snake oil, Liqui-Moly is not and does have a place in certain apps.

[Reiver]

Originally Posted by oliver88

Liqui-Moly MoS2 and Ceratec are very good products if you want to use an additive. Want is different than need. Ceratec will quiet an engine down, sometimes significantly. We have used it and MoS2 Liqui-Moly additives in road and race cars. I have not done a huge amount of UOA's with the additive in use though. Many discussions on Bobistheoilguy.com...pretty favorable opinions. Most additives are snake oil, Liqui-Moly is not and does have a place in certain apps.

Ok, that's a good point.
If it's been prop validated by 3rd parties in a controlled environment to prove whatever claims they make.
Do you know what testing and by what/whom etc? Not being a pain just interested in those kinds of tests.

[Bill Douglas]

I bought a Honda Civic that was blowing great clouds of smoke out the back. I put two cans of Wynns for Oil in it and the smoke and engine noise disappeared for the next three years.

[Alexm930]

Thanks for the info men. Oliver88 thanks for the boboilguy link...
Cheers, drink up.

[JAR0023]

Originally Posted by Reiver

Ok, that's a good point.
If it's been prop validated by 3rd parties in a controlled environment to prove whatever claims they make.
Do you know what testing and by what/whom etc? Not being a pain just interested in those kinds of tests.

Liqui-Moly is a German company and many of their products are TUV approved. I'm not vouching for their products but I wouldn't lump them in with Slick50 and the like. -J


LIQUI MOLY - Motor oils, Additives, Car care - TÜV confirms effectiveness of LIQUI MOLY additives

[DanielDudley]

Sounds like it functions in much the same way as ZDDP, only on a larger than molecular scale.

[Reiver]

Might be great stuff but am not a fan of adding someone else's stuff to an already good oil package like BP or some others.

[fredshealey]

Hi guys
would like to comment on the articles about oil additives.
I would like to say also that i do not have any affiliation with any company or their products,I speak from my own experience with my own cars,here it is:
I bought a 86 Ford Mustang GT in 88 with 35000 miles on it and put on another 330000 miles on that car without any engine repairs whatsoever.All I did was changed the oil at every 10000 miles with valvoline 20w50 and added greased lightning additive(teflon) to the oil every oilchange.not only did I never have any repairs on the motor,the car also went from 20 miles per gallon to 30 miles per gallon when I sold it with 365000 miles on it.The guy who bought this car from me firmly believed that I put a rebuilt engine in the car and did not believe me.
Also I would like to add that this Mustang was pulling a trailer with a car on it for more than 250 000 miles out of the 330000 miles.I think thats pretty impressive.
My next vehicle was a 94 Chevy truck c 1500 with the 5,7 litre motor.I bought this one with 100000 miles and put on another 240000 miles for a total of 340000 m iles.Did the same thing with the oilchanges and the teflon and that truck went from 14 miles per gallon to 19 miles per gallon without ever needing any enginerepairs either.So I speak from 30 years experience and have to say that stuff works great.Just thought I put that out there.Have a newer truck now with 55000 miles on it and bought it with 25000 miles and did the same thing to that one too,no great results yet,we will see after 300000 miles.

[Bill Douglas]

Thanks Fred. That sure is interesting!!!

That old Civic I mentioned was really noisy. Cam chain noisy I think. And after i put that crap (LOL) in the oil the noise went away.

[tobluforu]

I would like to add that I inherited a 1980 Honda accord from my sister that went through my parents, two sisters and a few au pairs. When I received it it had over 220k. I asked my sister when was the last time she changed the oil or had it tuned up, she said 4 years ago. Against everything I learned at that time, I decided to not change the oil, ever. I had that car for another 4 years, then sold it to a co-worker. He was still driving it when I left that job and never changed the oil, car had close to 400k. What I'm saying here is this, sometimes you get an engine/car that will go through hell and back no matter what you do or don't do. Is it the additive put in it, or is it......

[Reiver]

I can not read whatever testing was done on that site as it's in German.
All of the anecdotal stuff is neat but simply anecdotal...too many variables to say what did what.
Unless you have two engines, measured/recorded, running in exactly the same circumstance and same fuel source with the only difference being the magic additive....run strenuously...then opened up and compared it is all advertising.
I've only seen this done for one product that I use as a fuel additive and the test was done by an independent source.

[Walt Fricke]

The Mobile 1 engineer who gave a talk at the 2000 Sacramento Parade said that the synthetic base stock in their oil would last pretty much indefinitely. And its formulation wasn't particularly secret. What he said did wear out, and which he wasn't at liberty to discuss in much detail, was the additive package. That is why you can't run the oil forever and expect things to go well - the chemicals which bond to the parts get used up, the chemicals which neutralize acids or other bad things get used up, and the oil looses its power to do those things even if the carefully synthetically sized lubricant molecules are still their same wonderful and uniform length.

That's what he said, anyway. Seemed pretty credible. The rap on additives is that they are likely to disrupt the careful balance the oil company worked hard to achieve.

[db_cooper]

Apparently some of the ceramics don't hold in suspension very well and drop out. Some notes over on bobistheoilguy..

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