Oh, like the "Blowbye Porsche Report"? From Westonbug PA, that "Publishes 10, count them TEN mimeographed copies, and distributed from a box at Phil's Hardware in Central Westonburg PA every month. (Except for December) " That one actually IS international, because a German named Klaus was traveling thru, and it ended up in his luggage to wrap a leaking toothpaste tube, and made it back to the Homeland.

Sorry, but you set yourself up for that one.

OK, to be serious......maybe Porsche Panorama will do a 3 page spread? No, wait, it might be tough to publish "You'll see" and "Be patient" and "Future results in a year or so" and take up 3 pages. They have editors and stuff, after all.

I'd admit I have bit my tongue many times myself, and would have been in the troll category.

But there's a good reason, what exactly is your goal???

Build hype here, so when you launch your products, we'll praise you?

Sell product with Wayne eventually?

Show the journey from beginning to the final destination?

Was hoping and expecting a lot more than what's been presented.

I'm interested in your tech, but things are so convoluted, it screams RUN!!!

HOWDY again TippySmileWavy

I know you have been interested for a long time in my tech
So had Gilles

Praise is nice but I don't live for it!

First goal Show and Record the journey from beginning to the final destination
Second goal was to help DIY'ers here with qualified knowledge from many years of experience
Third goal goal Sell product with Wayne eventually
Forth goal redesign the whole A/C SYSTEM COMPLETELY to my satisfaction; TEST AND PROVE my discovery and invention REVERSING THE GASES

Fifth goal do something with my life that contributes and celebrates the beauty and wonderfulness of this 911 and the owners so I am remembered when I'm gone

Sorry; show to much presentation its stolen by competitors

He doesn't understand what the word "troll" means. He seems to think any sort of criticism of his method or mannerisms is "trolling". He reminds me of an aftermarket supplier for another German make. This supplier essentially uses the end user as a beta-tester. The end user often has to re-engineer the product in order to make it function as advertised. If you complain, they claim it fit on the test car, and offer to give you credit on your next purchase, or, more often, try to upsell more product. For some stuff, they are the only game in town.

That's the great thing about this guy. He's not the only game in town. And even if his stuff did twice the job for half the cost, I still wouldn't buy anything from him. Mostly because he says stuff that just isn't true. Like when he claims he invented the refrigerant reversal technique in these cars. If Wayne is smart, there is no way in heck he'll ever allow this guy to sell anything on Pelican Parts.

^^^^^^ r o f l m a o

So , how much sub cooling are you achieving with this design?

TROLL! How dare you ask a technical question?!?

It varies on the install due to several contributing factors of components used

you will haft to wait this is the first Cabriolet I have been involved with for A/C

The DIY Owner is initially using his OEM stock front condenser blower

I would prefer he uses Shrouds on the front PFCs and a high CFM blower similar to what I did on "The Tan Swan" 911 A/C install over a year ago, BUT at this time he doesn't have these things

Thank you for the response

I scratch my head sometimes...

I'm sorry. I thought I could ask technical questions in the tech forum and get an answer from the refrigeration genius. If one claims to be seeing more refrigeration effect, he must have made some kind of calculations and measurements. With out knowing your sub-cooling achieved and your superheat measured at the outlet of the evaporator, there is no way of knowing what the total refrigeration effect is. Or someone is talking out their ass!

I think I'll end this tread and not post this install here
have a nice day

!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!

The technology proposed here is actually a special device commonly referred to as a Kanooter Valve

^^^

Posted on 04.14.15


^^^

Then on 05.10.16, following 19 pages of ducking answers to bold claims made.

It's postings like this that question your grasp of the English language. SmileWavy

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Oh wait, I guess he forgot.

Geez. I sure hope it wasn't something I said :rolleyes:
Will this finally stop getting moved to the top? And let go, to die in the archives?
Ya know, a guy can only sit back and read utter bull$#!+ for so long.

Again with the REVERSING THE GASES.

(OK, that one was too easy. Sorry. SmileWavy)

So, my understanding of AC and heat pumps is basic at best. I thought the gas had to go one direction, get compressed, then go to an expansion valve where the temp change occurs....so how CAN you "reverse the gases"??

OR, is he referring to changing the order of the front and rear dealios? Is that really "reversing the gases"?

If so, I think that's an example of why people thought he used English as a second language.

It seems that what he actually meant to say was that he "invented" the idea of rerouting the high side refrigerant flow path, the front lid condenser first, then to the rear lid condenser and then to the dryer.

His claim was that this technique improved the refrigerant condensing efficiency substantially, well enough to justify the expense. No qualifying of the exact or approximate level of improvement was ever offered, as was the case of an engineering explanation for the gain, insofar as I am aware.

My own measurement of CSA airflow for the 2 condensers seems to put the lie to his "invention". Even at idle the rear lid condenser gets a higher level of cooling airflow, and the equation gets worse with rising engine RPM.

"Throw" in his "improved" PFC front lip condenser and matters get ever worse, as the new condenser actually BLOCKS(***) forward motion cooling airflow whereas the factory condenser takes advantage of this effect.

*** As is the case with ALL aftermarket front lip condensers... PUZZLING, EXTREMELY so.

Ah, ok, thanks for the summary, thats pretty much what I had gleaned.

I think one of his main features is a high performance front condenser with special shrouding and hi flow fan. He showed pictures of this somewhere. That could potentially indeed successfully dump a lot of heat away from the engine. Again, there are glimpses of ideas that may work, but no before and afters, or other comparisons.
I wish him well, but we may as well wait for Gilles to give us actual data or at least impressions.
Good luck,
Dave

Gilles wont release anything on his own!

GO SIT IN THE CORNER, WWEST!!!!!!!!!!

:D


The charlatan modus operandi continues, then - nice!

Sadly, he thought again...

YES THIS REMOVES MASSIVE HEAT from the front PFC

Gills does NOT have this initially BUT IF HE WANTS ICECOLD911 @ 100 F plus ambient he will discover his OEM front blower ain't going to cut it!

AND NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!

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DaveMcKenz
YOUR THINKING IS WRONG ABOUT ENGINE HEAT AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY DESIGN!

Shouting doesn't make your point more clear, nor does it clarify his confusion over your design goals.

Thanks, Reid.
Please clarify. My image is that you have a big honking front condenser and fan assembly that dumps a lot of heat, first. Then you have a very efficient rear PF condenser. You use an orifice valve and accumulator too. Besides control and air distribution, what am I missing?
Dave

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Reversing The Gases

kenikh GET YOUR CRAP POST OUT OF HERE

OR I will bring back the moderators

maybe its time to do this anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Reid,
I did include the reversed gas flow, by saying you send to front condenser first, then rear condenser. That's the only reversal isn't it?
Thanks,
Dave

yes


Think HARDER

There is basically no noticeable engine oil temp increase when the a/c is turned or off
With my design

The OEM A/C Design greatly increases oil temp when the a/c is on as ambient temperatures increase

That is exactly correct, including all of the "secrets" that we are not supposed to know about yet do...
So, when Reid says "your thinking is wrong" he really means "you are 100% correct and understand this perfectly", just as when he says "invented" he means "didn't invent at all".

See? He makes perfect sense, once you put his posts through the Spiderman Decoder Ring.

its unfortunate I have decided to not post the install here, you had your chance
oh well!