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KelogGes 05-08-2016 07:42 PM

THIS IS NOT A HOBBY!!!

but i guess from what you posted you have no interest

Have a good day

Corvus Corvax 05-08-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9112267)
THIS IS NOT A HOBBY!!!

Of course it's a hobby. Since it's not a business, what else could it be? When someone does something for fun, we call that a hobby. When someone does something to make money, we call that a business. Since you're not selling anything, it's a hobby.

See, this is why it's silly to insist that you're not trying to get people to buy product. And we all know exactly why - you didn't get permission to sell your product on these pages, so you're just circumventing the rules. You're not even a little clever about it. The very insistence that you have about not selling product when it is completely obvious that you are trying to sell product is why you've lost credibility. That, and making claims like you invented reversing the refrigerant flow, or that these condensers were designed specifically for these cars.

Trust, once lost, is impossible to regain.

Bob Kontak 05-08-2016 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvus Corvax (Post 9112278)
Trust, once lost, is impossible to regain.

+1 from an apparition.

What time Monday will this be bumped up?

KelogGes 05-08-2016 08:58 PM

go sit in the corner Eric!

KelogGes 05-09-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vhjugi (Post 9112723)


true!


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KelogGes 05-09-2016 10:34 AM

BLUE BIRD 86 SC Cabriolet DIY Reversing The A/C GASES
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462818733.jpg

The engine was finally installed into the body over the weekend
It's been over a year since this project started and I made and sent my PFC matched set condensers to Gilles the owner

After installing the engine it would not start, in testing it was discovered the fuel pump turned out to be defective, a new fuel-pump was ordered and should arrive this week

wwest 05-09-2016 10:54 AM

My airflow measurements indicate that at engine idle the rear lid condenser gets substantially more cooling CSA airflow than the front... Above idle the effect is much more dramatic.

What makes sense to me is that the highest system pressure, highest temperature fluid, should be routed to the most efficient condenser. In this case it seems clear that would be the engine lid condenser.

So why does your "reversing" the flow work...??

To make matters even worse it appears to me that your aftermarket front lip condenser, as with most others, get little, or no, cooling benefit from forward motion airflow as does the OEM.


Is engine heating, IR heating, of the rear lid condenser resulting in the front lip condenser being more efficient?

Corvus Corvax 05-09-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 9113049)
Is engine heating, IR heating, of the rear lid condenser resulting in the front lip condenser being more efficient?

Nobody has ever shown any test data that this actually happens.

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:06 AM

wwest go sit in the corner

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:07 AM

Eric go sit in the corner

Pazuzu 05-09-2016 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9112775)

Man, I love you sometimes! Not only did you quote a spammer, you then went back and added some random Christ image to show us just how much you agree with the spammer, who was quoting you anyways.
Wait...are you saying that YOUR Jesus???

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:13 AM

to others your welcome to ask questions as long as they are polite & civil

to bashers and harassers go fly a kite

Pazuzu 05-09-2016 11:14 AM

What are the fittings on your front PFC condenser? What size?

tharbert 05-09-2016 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9112311)
+1 from an apparition.

What time Monday will this be bumped up?

That was not quite 12 hours, Bob: 11:44 PM to 11:11 AM.

This thread reverses my flow.

Rawknees'Turbo 05-09-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9113080)
to others your welcome to ask questions as long as they are polite & civil


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9110382)
The technologically "obsolete" 911 a/c components (aftermarket) create vent temperatures below 30 degrees in ambient temps above 95F; how will your state of the art stuff work better (evidence please, not hype)?


And your answer is?

And saying "have patience, Giles is working on it", is not a suitable "answer" since you made those claims of superior performance years ago and also claim your systems are up in running in a couple of Florida cars.

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 9113078)
Man, I love you sometimes! Not only did you quote a spammer, you then went back and added some random Christ image to show us just how much you agree with the spammer, who was quoting you anyways.
Wait...are you saying that YOUR Jesus???

where do you see any reference to any thing religious

putdown your crakepipe

Pazuzu 05-09-2016 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9113104)
where do you see any reference to any thing religious

What size are the fittings on your front PFC condenser?

wwest 05-09-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9113067)
wwest go sit in the corner

Since you claim to be an engineer, A/C engineering specialist, why not give an honest and straight forward answer to an honest an straight forward question?

You claim that "reversing the gases" actually works to improve the system performance, so why not give us an engineering analysis as to why?

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawknees'turbo (Post 9113099)
and your answer is?

And saying "have patience, giles is working on it", is not a suitable "answer" since you made those claims of superior performance years ago and also claim your systems are up in running in a couple of florida cars.

go sit in the corner!

dtw 05-09-2016 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 9113115)
Since you claim to be an engineer, A/C engineering specialist, why not give an honest and straight forward answer to an honest an straight forward question?

You claim that "reversing the gases" actually works to improve the system performance, so why not give us an engineering analysis as to why?

We now have AC thread troll #1, trolling AC thread troll #2.

You can't make this stuff up.

zippy_gg 05-09-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 9113106)
What size are the fittings on your front PFC condenser?

Both In and Out are #8 Male O-ring type.
This matches the incoming #8 hose from the compressor, and the outgoing #8 to the rear condenser.

KelogGes 05-09-2016 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pazuzu (Post 9113106)
what size are the fittings on your front pfc condenser?

proprietary

KelogGes 05-09-2016 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 9113162)
Both In and Out are #8 Male O-ring type.
This matches the incoming #8 hose from the compressor, and the outgoing #8 to the rear condenser.

HOWDY G

please be careful about giving out this type of proprietary information

schnelltarga 05-09-2016 12:02 PM

How to sit in the corner with reverse flow
 
I couldn't resist.

I can guess that I too will be banished to the corner...

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Pazuzu 05-09-2016 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 9113162)
Both In and Out are #8 Male O-ring type.
This matches the incoming #8 hose from the compressor, and the outgoing #8 to the rear condenser.

Thank you, that makes them non-standard, so someone would have to run different hoses if they wanted to drop the condensers in place. assuming they were for sale...

It's especially hard to design something that can be dropped in by the owner (requiring #6 fittings) and something that might be able to handle the chore of being the first condenser (which requires #8 fittings).

KelogGes 05-09-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnelltarga (Post 9113186)
i couldn't resist.

I can guess that i too will be banished to the corner...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462824075.jpg

your fine!

KelogGes 05-09-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pazuzu (Post 9113193)
thank you, that makes them non-standard, so someone would have to run different hoses if they wanted to drop the condensers in place. Assuming they were for sale...

It's especially hard to design something that can be dropped in by the owner (requiring #6 fittings) and something that might be able to handle the chore of being the first condenser (which requires #8 fittings).

yes

and this IS all custom design re-engineering;

welcome to the A/C future Of early model 911; or stay in the past with old obsolete designs of my competitors, its up to you

Rawknees'Turbo 05-09-2016 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 9113216)
yes

and this IS all custom design re-engineering; welcome to the A/C future!

Evidence of re-engineering resulting in superior performance?

KelogGes 05-09-2016 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9113228)
Evidence of re-engineering resulting in superior performance?

go stay in the corner

kenikh 05-09-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9113228)
Evidence of re-engineering resulting in superior performance?

Gastric bypass

wwest 05-09-2016 12:44 PM

One crowded corner....

daepp 05-09-2016 01:54 PM

Kelog or Reid or whatever your name is:

A friendly question - are you a non-native English speaker? The reason I ask is that all we have from you is in the form of the written word, and perhaps we or you are mis-translating at times. I am truly trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

KelogGes 05-09-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 9113378)
Kelog or Reid or whatever your name is:

A friendly question - are you a non-native English speaker? The reason I ask is that all we have from you is in the form of the written word, and perhaps we or you are mis-translating at times. I am truly trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

daepp my name is Reid, I am American originally From Calif, I speak ENGLISH and am highly educated

not sure WHAT YOU MEAN BY "all we have from you is in the form of the written word, and perhaps we or you are mis-translating at times"??

May I suggest you be more specific

Oh Haha 05-09-2016 02:24 PM

What the heck...


What he means is that the words you type out sometimes do not make sense. Poor grammar, sentence structure, etc.

I thought English might not be your first language, like others here.

Rawknees'Turbo 05-09-2016 02:27 PM

^^^

Maybe we're not highly educated enough to understand him?



Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 9113265)
Gastric bypass

Is that where methane is re-routed to one's esophagus?!?!

Pazuzu 05-09-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 9113425)
What the heck...


What he means is that the words you type out sometimes do not make sense. Poor grammar, sentence structure, etc.

I thought English might not be your first language, like others here.

I would have bet a paycheck that he was recently introduced to the English language.

Now, I know that not only would I be poor for a while, but I'm even more scared for the 911s in the Southeastern Florida region...

daepp 05-09-2016 02:51 PM

Where are you from in CA? (And FWIW I had no intention of bagging on you - just trying to solve what, to me anyways, is a mystery.)

lateapex911 05-09-2016 04:42 PM

Yea, I had resumed the same thing. But astrophysicists aren't always English majors early on before going brainiac!

tobluforu 05-09-2016 05:36 PM

No highly educated man would allow this kind of thread to get to where it is today.
I'm pretty sure you meant, you're fine, not, "your fine!" Heck, I don't know as I'm not very smart.
Now, where are my muffler bearings?

KelogGes 05-09-2016 08:47 PM

I am thinking of pulling the plug on PUBLISHING This state of the art A/C DIY INSTALL on Pelican.com and publishing it in a national and/or international Porsche publication


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